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Westminstenders: Going, going, cummings

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RedToothBrush · 13/11/2020 18:36

As expected he's fucking off and leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces in January. But it does look like he was eventually shown the door and left with a cardboard box. As he should have been months ago.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with Johnson needing an image change, like the shape shifting creep he is, to one that fits more with the incoming Biden Administration. In other words hes got some serious sucking up to do...

... Meanwhile in Brexit land we are going into yet another final week of talks.

Many expect Cummings departure to signal 'the cave in'. The Eu say we havent moved enough and the uk say the EU wants us to do all the moving... Except the EU have done lots of moving. Barnier is still looking for a groundsman to level his field to play. We have yet to work out we aren't Canada and distance is important to trade.

Of course if we don't get a deal, that Pfizer vaccine in Germany that we want, might be hit with delays and extra costs we just can't afford.

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pussycatinboots · 20/11/2020 15:45

Yipeee!!!!
I'd like to thank my agent and my French teacher, who was actually Spanish.

DGRossetti · 20/11/2020 15:52

@pussycatinboots

Yipeee!!!! I'd like to thank my agent and my French teacher, who was actually Spanish.
Smile

Most of my French teachers were English, apart from Mme Orange - who also taught me Latin for a year. Drove a green LHD 2CV. (I don't think there was such a thing as irony in the late 70s).

ListeningQuietly · 20/11/2020 15:55

Always a good read at the end of the week
chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/

Peregrina · 20/11/2020 15:57

My French teacher was Hungarian.

pussycatinboots · 20/11/2020 15:59

LHD 2CV?
Interestingly one of my middle school teachers had one (blue) c1981/2.
He was not Mme Orange and taught English.

TheMShip · 20/11/2020 16:44

It must be a French teacher thing! My beloved high school French teacher (actually English, camp as camp, later married the English lit teacher when it became legal) was a massive 2CV fan. This was in Canada, mind, so they were rare, but there was one in my small home town. For the final class exam before provincial exams, you could get a bonus mark if you had either a photo or could give the license plate number of the car.

TonMoulin · 20/11/2020 17:00

Yep no change yet but the thing to note is the fact the EU is more optimistic and has noticed some progress.

We’ll see.

OchonAgusOchonO · 20/11/2020 17:36

@TonMoulin

Yep no change yet but the thing to note is the fact the EU is more optimistic and has noticed some progress.

We’ll see.

I'm not so sure that the progress really means anything, given the sticking points. What's being said is, we have made progress but really, it doesn't matter unless the UK cop on to themselves

www.irishtimes.com/news/world/brexit/q-a-the-state-of-play-in-the-brexit-talks-1.4414785

“After difficult weeks with very, very slow progress, now we have seen in the last days better progress, more movement on important files,” European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said. “There are still quite some metres to the finish line so there is still a lot of work to do ... Time pressure is high without any question.”
....

The EU side believes a decision is required by UK prime minister Boris Johnson to move to a compromise on the contentious 5 per cent of the deal in order to forge agreement. They have also said that a deal would not be possible if the British government passes the controversial clauses of the Internal Markets Bill, which unpick aspects of the Withdrawal Agreement signed last year designed to avoid a border in Ireland and is currently going through the UK parliament. In addition, they say the Northern Ireland protocol, which requires checks at Irish Sea entries into the North, must be fully implemented. The British side say that movement is needed by both sides. “We now need to see more realism from the EU on what it means for the UK to be an independent state,” a UK government spokeswoman said.

pussycatinboots · 20/11/2020 18:55

The EU side believes a decision is required by UK prime minister Boris Johnson

😱🤦🏻‍♀️

ListeningQuietly · 20/11/2020 18:59

hey have also said that a deal would not be possible if the British government passes the controversial clauses of the Internal Markets Bill,
No shit sherlock Wink

Peregrina · 20/11/2020 19:16

Johnson doesn't do decision making.

pussycatinboots · 20/11/2020 19:33

Johnson doesn't do

ListeningQuietly · 20/11/2020 19:45

Johnson doesn't

Peregrina · 20/11/2020 19:54

Well, only shags around.....

borntobequiet · 20/11/2020 20:26

One of the beauties of Brexit is that it’s resulted in respectable older ladies such as Peregrina and myself making comments on the Prime Minister’s habit of shagging around, and in my case shortening his name to a sexual act. In some ways it’s been liberating.

borntobequiet · 20/11/2020 20:27

Sorry, Peregrina...you may have always referred to prime ministers in the same way. But I wouldn’t have thought so.

tobee · 20/11/2020 20:47

Hard to believe that at the end of the week which started with great news on a second vaccine, that I could be feeling so down, what with Brexshit and the shenanigans in the White House 😏😞

PerkingFaintly · 20/11/2020 21:13

Time for a Brew, tobee.

What if the vaccine and Biden's victory hadn't happened?

Things could be better, but my goodness they could have been worse!

TheABC · 20/11/2020 21:19

Watching Trump flail around is like watching the dying gasps of a wounded bull. It's still got the capacity to damage, but the end result is not in doubt. You just wish someone would put him out of his misery (preferably removing Twitter from him at the same time) and deposit him gently on a golf course away from any Big Red Buttons.

QueenOfThorns · 20/11/2020 21:29

@TheABC

Watching Trump flail around is like watching the dying gasps of a wounded bull. It's still got the capacity to damage, but the end result is not in doubt. You just wish someone would put him out of his misery (preferably removing Twitter from him at the same time) and deposit him gently on a golf course away from any Big Red Buttons.
I believe his days on Twitter are numbered. The only reason they haven’t pulled the plug on him already is that he’s a head of state Grin
TheABC · 20/11/2020 21:33

I have been reading through "Empty Planet" this week. Bricker and Ibbitson put forward a persuasive argument that global fertility is declining faster than forecast by the UN -in fact, we could already be at peak baby. If they are correct, by the end of the century, countries will be competing for young migrants, rather than turning them away.

In fact, the main reason Britain is not facing the same acute aging pressures as, say Japan, Spain or Italy, is precisely because we have people coming in from overseas.

Brexit is our Suez moment on migration. Utterly futile, but necessary if only to expose how fucked up our political discourse is.

tobee · 20/11/2020 22:22

@PerkingFaintly

Time for a Brew, tobee.

What if the vaccine and Biden's victory hadn't happened?

Things could be better, but my goodness they could have been worse!

True! Doesn't bear thinking about Trump victory/ no vaccines

DrBlackbird · 20/11/2020 23:37

Well this thread and the food shortages thread + growing awareness of just how close we're getting to the end of the year is driving me to Costco tomorrow. The alternative is trusting Boris to make the right decision Hmm

DrBlackbird · 20/11/2020 23:40

LQ years ago I had the pleasure of being a work colleague with Chris Grey. So kind and immensely intelligent. Was a real loss when he left.

wherearemychickens · 20/11/2020 23:46

That's how he comes across DrBlackbird. His weekly analysis has been amazingly consisently perceptive.

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