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Westminstenders: Going, going, cummings

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RedToothBrush · 13/11/2020 18:36

As expected he's fucking off and leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces in January. But it does look like he was eventually shown the door and left with a cardboard box. As he should have been months ago.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with Johnson needing an image change, like the shape shifting creep he is, to one that fits more with the incoming Biden Administration. In other words hes got some serious sucking up to do...

... Meanwhile in Brexit land we are going into yet another final week of talks.

Many expect Cummings departure to signal 'the cave in'. The Eu say we havent moved enough and the uk say the EU wants us to do all the moving... Except the EU have done lots of moving. Barnier is still looking for a groundsman to level his field to play. We have yet to work out we aren't Canada and distance is important to trade.

Of course if we don't get a deal, that Pfizer vaccine in Germany that we want, might be hit with delays and extra costs we just can't afford.

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FatCatThinCat · 19/11/2020 18:27

I've just told scientist DH about Boris' plan to equip the military with laser weapons. He says that would be illegal. That laser weapons are banned under international law in the same way as chemical weapons are. Johnson has again announced to the world press that he's going to flout international law. Fuckwit.

pussycatinboots · 19/11/2020 18:49

FatCat
That's Prime Minister Fuckwit.
I wonder if all this was a parting gift from Dom?

DGRossetti · 19/11/2020 18:56

@FatCatThinCat

I've just told scientist DH about Boris' plan to equip the military with laser weapons. He says that would be illegal. That laser weapons are banned under international law in the same way as chemical weapons are. Johnson has again announced to the world press that he's going to flout international law. Fuckwit.
Speaking of lasers ... so much bullshit here, it's hard to know where to start ...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-hampshire-54930207

LouiseCollins28 · 19/11/2020 19:04

Did somebody say "Space Force?" Grin

DGRossetti · 19/11/2020 19:05

[quote LouiseCollins28]Did somebody say "Space Force?" Grin

[/quote] I can remember Reagans Strategic Defence Initiative ... it was bollocks then.
ListeningQuietly · 19/11/2020 19:08

DGR
The guy is from Totton. Nuff said WinkGrin

prettybird · 19/11/2020 19:14

And then there was Philip Hammond claiming during the Indyref that an independent Scotland would be more vulnerable to attacks from space Confused

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20140416/281633893224220

Westminstenders: Going, going, cummings
dontcallmelen · 19/11/2020 19:15

@FatCatThinCat

I think I must be a closet optimist as I think I was still expecting everything to be sorted out in the end. Despite knowing full well it was going to be a complete shitshow.
You are not the only one I always clung onto that as well, gives self a massive shake & for being such an ejjitt despite all the overwhelming evidence on these threads over the years.
DrBlackbird · 19/11/2020 19:27

FRESH concerns around food standards in Scotland have been raised after a top UK Government trade advisor said that the Tories shouldn't be "too concerned" about it.

Tony Abbott, the former Australian prime minister, told a Westminster committee that some governments were “too concerned with standards and labour standards” and that the London Government “shouldn’t sweat the small stuff”.

I don't care about his laughing. But if he said not to sweat the small stuff and I note that this is quotation marks... this is something to care about. How dare HE decide what my food and labour standards are?

mrslaughan · 19/11/2020 20:00

What did Johnson need from Patel, that he leaked in time for evening news that he was going to release the report into her bullying, then by just before 8 announces, no that's not going to happen?

tobee · 19/11/2020 20:06

I've got quite a nice stockpile of food. However, I have no stockpile of medication for me or dh, so I'm not sure if my food stockpile will be that useful to us when we're dead.

pussycatinboots · 19/11/2020 20:36

tobee I do see the flaw in your plan there. DH is in a similar situation.

TheElementsOfMedical · 19/11/2020 20:59

Bloody hell. Somebody has wheeled out the Millennium Bug on the food shortage thread. I'm itching to bump the Brexit Bingo thread... ^^ 😬

ListeningQuietly · 19/11/2020 21:00

elements
I've had three Martinis and am holding back
you can too Wink

Sostenueto · 19/11/2020 21:01

Patel found to have broken ministerial code. Just heard it on tv?

pussycatinboots · 19/11/2020 21:11

Just had this emailed from Churchill Insurance:

As a Churchill Insurance policy holder, there is some important information you should know about before driving in the EU if there's no deal between the UK and the EU.
After 31st December 2020, some laws might change. For example, you may need to carry a Green Card to drive a UK vehicle legally in the EU.
So that you can keep track of any new rules, U K Insurance Limited (who underwrite Churchill Insurance) have created a website to keep drivers up-to-date.

So that's useful Hmm

Greektome · 19/11/2020 21:29

When are the "coulds" FINALLY going to change into "wills"?
Even now, we're being told that there "could" be problems in the event of a No Deal. It just enables people to tell themselves that everything will be fine.

TheABC · 19/11/2020 21:42

@Greektome, January 15 2021, ministers may admit to some "slight delays".

I would love to be wrong on the impact of a No-Deal Brexit. I still can't believe we are self-inflicting this without even a murmur in Parliament.

Peregrina · 19/11/2020 22:08

The comments on the food thread show how we are a long long way from 'we hold all the cards'. If we did there should be gluts of food - not that procedures taking about mitigating disruption!

Geppili · 19/11/2020 22:14

Is there any chance Priti Patel could be sacked tomorrow?

Peregrina · 19/11/2020 22:20

Could it be like MacMillan's night of the long knives? Or whatever - I was a bit too young at the time to follow politics. Either way, Mac the Knife didn't last much longer as PM.

prettybird · 19/11/2020 22:47

@Geppili

Is there any chance Priti Patel could be sacked tomorrow?
Unfortunately not. Sad
mrslaughan · 20/11/2020 07:31

Yep - I agree with Pretty..... The whole thing over the news periods last night when they said she was going to be censured was to get something, as bulky the end of the news it was all fine, report not going to be released and the PM not giving her a warning....

Chersfrozenface · 20/11/2020 07:32

A story on BBC Business has a headline about books - not many people are going to worry about books.

However, should anyone actually read the piece... well, it's all going a bit Pete Tong, isn't it?

"Delays at Felixstowe have been caused by a surge in import traffic as companies increased orders after the initial lockdown and some looked to stockpile goods before the end of the Brexit transition period.

The pandemic has made matters worse as large orders of PPE added to the backlog of containers on the quayside.

The port's owner, Hutchison UK, has said it is in the process of recruiting an additional 104 equipment drivers plus a number of engineers to help solve the problem.

But congestion at England's ports is now so bad, some shipping firms have limited the amount of cargo they will bring to the UK.

One of the world's biggest shipping lines, CMA CGM, told the BBC it was allocating less space on its fleet for UK imports for the time being.
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"UK ports are currently experiencing yard and port congestion mostly in Felixstowe, and in London Gateway and Southampton to a lesser extent," said a spokeswoman for CMA CGM Group.

"We are controlling import volumes while maximising empty container evacuation wherever possible."

Empty containers waiting to be shipped back to Asia are causing traffic jams at ports across Europe and North America. That could have knock-on effects for companies' Christmas orders, said Peter Wilson, managing director of the UK freight forwarder Cory Brothers.

"We are already seeing that goods due by Christmas… are very unlikely to arrive because they're in their origin ports, waiting for containers," he said.

Causing even further headaches for importers, shipping companies have sharply increased freight prices in response to the congestion at UK ports - some by as much as 300%.

"What the lines are trying to do is to dissuade people sending stuff to the UK," said Alan Joseph, operations director of The Cotswold Company, which imports some of its wooden furniture from Asia.

This week, a freight company quoted a price of $8,000 to transport a 40ft container from Asia to the UK.

"At the end of September, market rates were less than a quarter of that, at $1,700 per unit," Mr Joseph said.

He added that while individual businesses will negotiate unique import costs based on the volume of goods they want to move, at the moment, prices are increasing across the board. And there are few alternatives for businesses whose goods are manufactured overseas.

"Airlines are not moving as much cargo because there are fewer passenger flights. The railway from China to Germany is now quoting rates in excess of $10,000 per container - which is not much of an option."

He said two other shipping firms are now refusing bookings for importing refrigerated containers to the UK.

"It's a worrying sign that big shipping lines are drastically reducing UK volumes because so much of the imports in the UK arrive through our ports, and if there's less coming there are less supplies of everything that gets imported.""
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54989299

notimagain · 20/11/2020 08:23

@FatCatThinCat

I've just told scientist DH about Boris' plan to equip the military with laser weapons. He says that would be illegal. That laser weapons are banned under international law in the same way as chemical weapons are. Johnson has again announced to the world press that he's going to flout international law. Fuckwit.
Not quite...the deployment of laser weapons whose sole function, or one of their designed functions, is to cause blindness or damage vision is illegal under international law.

It's not illegal to design/deploy laser systems for other military purposes (e.g. anti missile/anti aircraft) and over the last few decades plenty of those have been or are being developed.