Westminstenders: Prepare for what we said would never happen

[RedToothBrush]

I think that there may be a run on tinned tomatoes and pasta coming. Pizza will no longer have mozzarella in 2021.

On the plus side turnips are in season.

@RedToothBrush

Stories about Johnson planning to resign are about squirrels and testing the water about preparing to remove him. Nothing to do with him resigning.

Well that's been standard Tory party operating procedure since the year dot (as DM might have said).

However, I'm wondering if it will work in post-truth, post-brexit Toryland ? I think the party has been captured enough; not in numbers, but where the numbers are - enough that Boris stays as long as the people that benefit from Boris being PM want him to stay.

After all, it's only after the camels back is broken, that you know it was a straw too far.

Remember people insisting only the Tories are capable of managing the economy ?

twitter.com/peterkyle/status/1317472869270552577

Britain's credit rating has just been downgraded to 'Aa3', our third downgrade since the Tories took over running the economy ten years ago.

They inherited the highest rating, Aaa, from Labour...and squandered it.

...

Once again to all and any Brexiters or Tories when there is the vaguest murmur of unhappiness ...

You voted for this - now come and own it, you gobshites.

RedToothBrush
He isn't up to the job. He knows it by now im sure.
Ha ha ha
Until you've been barred from pubs due to the bad behaviour of Etonians
you have NO IDEA of the level of entitlement and arrogance

these are people who have been told that they are the elite since age 4
and nobody has ever contradicted that
private school teachers learn to keep their mouths shut
and that they are born to lead

the only way things cannot go the way they want is because
nasty other people got in the way

pmk

If only there had been a British equivalent to Jacinda Ardern

One of my foodbank clients told me they were voting tory in December last year...

Another foodbank volunteer told me he was voting for Boris because "he would be a good laugh".

I went home and cried.

That's pretty ageist FatCat

I'm a pensioner.

That's pretty ageist FatCat

I'm a pensioner.

No it's not. It's a statement of my experience.

@GhostofFrankGrimes

If only there had been a British equivalent to Jacinda Ardern

What ? A paid up IRA member who personally held the coats of EDL thugs while they kicked the shit out of Jews while toddling off to their allotment to plan the downfall of the west while eating babies and throwing the bones to the foxes ?

because by the time our press had finished with her, that's what you'd be getting ...

If only there had been a British equivalent to Jacinda Ardern hmm

Well as the meme goes

To those of you Brits who wish you had a Jacinda Ardern,

You have loads of Jacinda Arderns you just need to vote for them......

DGRossetti

I was alluding more to centrists on social media lamenting that NZ had ardern and UK had Johnson. It wasn’t just the right wing press that ensured a Tory majority. The UK wasted its chances. The lack of self awareness amongst many “moderates” is breathtaking.

So true, Emily 👏🏽

Britain has got talent,
but unfortunately they rarely rise to the top
The scum do that instead

When Labour presented their choice of Corbyn ....

The lack of self awareness amongst many socialists is breathtaking.

You knew he was toxic, but still chose him, thinking you could force moderates to accept him
You even lost a chunk of traditional Labour to him

Starmer is competent enough, but the difference in Labour's ratings to Corbyn's leadership is huge.
Traditional Labour voters and moderates find him acceptable, if not that exciting - but BJ shows what happens when you elect someone for being entertaining.

There was a lot of exaggeration and demonising about Corbyn,
but his indifference to and tolerance of anti-semitism was real

His friendship and flirting with terrorists and anti-semites was real

No, many moderates on the left, centre and right of centre wouldn't suck that up

I'm pissing myself at the notion that pensioners would accept cuts to help out the younger generation.

I am a pensioner and I don't behave like that. Meanness doesn't have any age limits.

The savaging of Ed Miliband was vicious, shameful and undeserved,
more than a touch of anti-semitism too

Technique in eating a bacon sarnie does not deserve any demonising
and the Ed stone was no dafter than umpteen Tory gimmicks

This 2015 GE Cameron tweet ought to be in the history books as an example of sheer arrogance and hubris
And as example of an "if only ...."

David Cameronn@David*_Cameron

Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband:

https://facebook.com/DavidCameronOfficial/posts/979082725449379

He was only toxic to the right of the party that wanted a return to Blairism. The rest of us didn’t swallow the tabloid bollocks about Corbyn. The centrists still thought they could win the Brexit argument as late as December last year.

Starmer isn’t doing great in the polls given we were told “any other leader” would be 20 points ahead.

@BigChocFrenzy

There was a lot of exaggeration and demonising about Corbyn, but his indifference to and tolerance of anti-semitism was real

His friendship and flirting with terrorists and anti-semites was real

No, many moderates on the left, centre and right of centre wouldn't suck that up

www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/fifty-times-jeremy-corbyn-stood-with-jewish-people/

You lost heavily with Corbyn

There were a minority of Jewish Labourr supporters that stuck with the party
Most savaged it and him
In public

And we could read ourselves about the anti-semites he chose to befriend, to retweet and share platforms with

Any other leader would have been 20 points ahead when the Tories were tearing themselves apart early last year
Voters hate open civil wars

However, now the Tory party has been cleansed; the war is over and the Brexiters rule the party
Despite the fuckups, many voters will still support any PM in a crisis

BJ's removal early next year will be very discrete

• he has the excellent face-saving and possibly even genuine health reason of having suffered Covid

So, by all means, dump Starmer and let the Tory rules extend to 25 yeaars or so.

Looking back at the 1983 debacle, it took Kinnock, Smith and finally Blair to make Labour electable again, to root out the rats in the dorm.
14 years was the cost of indulging the far left then

That's the problem with a toxic leader / policies:
they don't just bugger 1 election - piss off the voters and rehabilitation of Labour can take 10-15 years

Foot was a very decent & talented bloke, unlike Corbyn, just way to the left of the country
So the memory of Corbyn will linger and may stink for a very long time
His clique are lingering too

You lost heavily with Corbyn

He was very close in 2017 against all the right wing press and this sort of stuff;

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leak-report-corbyn-election-whatsapp-antisemitism-tories-yougov-poll-a9462456.html

Any other leader would have been 20 points ahead when the Tories were tearing themselves apart early last year

Yeah, its not like the Tories appalling handling of COVID should present the leader of the opposition with an open goal. And with no deal Brexit looming. Crisis or no crisis, the broad church must do better.

Foot was fine until he became Leader but was living in the past. I went to a hustings back in 1992 and he went on and on and on about the landslide 1945 election. I was sitting next to a friend and said that come the next election my children would be able to vote and they would no more want to hear what happened then, than I would have wanted to know what had happened electorally in 1928.
As it happened, Blair came in after John Smith had done the groundwork, and they did get their landslide, but it wasn't by going on about 1945.

To many, regardless of political persuasion Blair is toxic. His interventions on Brexit did nothing to change the mood of the country.