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Westministender: Amen to that!

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RedToothBrush · 20/09/2020 20:52

On the Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, Johnson went to Westminster Abbey and was trolled. Its almost divine in its irony.

In a week where just about the entire right wing press has turned on him, for being... well shit... They have the dawning realisation that yes all those annoying lefties were right all along when they said he was full of nothing but hot air. He's been ridiculed for being paid £150,000 a year and not being able to feed his 5000 kids and the pictures to mark the anniversary of him becoming PM do little more than look like a man who couldn't tie his own shoe laces without a nanny to help him.

But its not really a laughing matter. This man doesn't understand what legal agreements he's signed so his solution to his ineptitude is to throw his toys out of the pram together with the rule of law. Which he also does not understand.

Johnson is also ever increasingly keen on ripping up inconvient human right and workers right and he has ample opportunity to do all this in the middle of a pandemic.

Unfortunately the hypocrisy of his cronies isn't exactly helping the behaviour of the public and you have to pity the poor behavioural scientists who have to tell him that 'of course the public are going to give you the vs when you tell them you shouldn't do this when your chief advisor claims to be maybe going blind'.

It seems the whole government strategy on managing the virus seems to be falling flat on its face rather sooner than planned cos they stuck Dildo in charge who wouldn't know her Rs from her elbow if it hit her in the face. And we've got Hancock going full on 1984, telling us not to believe the reports that no one can get a test because its all lies - except half the country has either first hand experience of the travesty of Track and Trace or has a close mate who they know is a hell of a lot more reliable than any of these fuckwits when it comes to telling the truth.

Meanwhile in America Bader Ginsburg has managed to die at possibly the most inconvient and dangerous time possible just as the future of democracy in the US is clinging on by its finger nails.

And yes. Money laundering. Haven't we talked about that a lot on these threads. Its almost as if FinCEN was predictable...

Taking back control was always about the elite taking back control from the masses. But if you've managed to keep following all this time, we've been saying that since April 2016 and no one listened then, so why would they start listening now?

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52andblue · 21/09/2020 11:34

Is Nicola still on the BBC, @prettybird ?

prettybird · 21/09/2020 11:37

She is Smile: the BBC decided to keep broadcasting her briefings, given the current increase in the virus and the various local restrictions.

Lisette1940 · 21/09/2020 11:37

Not at the moment 52

Lisette1940 · 21/09/2020 11:38

Sorry thought you meant was she on now. Yes there was a u turn.

yoikes · 21/09/2020 11:46

Morning all.

A pp posted something about the Govt pushing through a law that will allow ofgen to cut off electricity supplies?

Can you re link to it please as I can't find it, thank you x

BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2020 11:49

@DGRossetti

Maybe Boris went to Italy to get a test ?
... 😂 Go directly to Italy, instead of sending tests to the labs there !
Chersfrozenface · 21/09/2020 11:51

@yoikes

Morning all.

A pp posted something about the Govt pushing through a law that will allow ofgen to cut off electricity supplies?

Can you re link to it please as I can't find it, thank you x

It referred to a story in the Daily Fail. The actual change proposal document is here www.dcusa.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/DCP-371_Last-resort-arrangements-for-Distributors-to-manage-specific-consumer-connected-devices.pdf
BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2020 11:52

DG I have that issue when translating for people to or from German:

I often have to translate the whole sentence and of course a literl word for word translation sometimes makes no sense

Added issue that German often has a humungously long word where English would have a phrase to describe something 😂
Especially the title of some local government offices and jobs !

yoikes · 21/09/2020 11:52

Thanks very much cher x

BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2020 11:55

Are people in the UK still allowed to swan off abroad on holiday jollies,
or atm are you supposed to consider first whether your trip is necessary ?

Not a great example when Whitty & Vallance are telling everyone how serious the infection situation is.

BJ didn't seem to be on govt business, just funny business (as usual)

Clavinova · 21/09/2020 11:56

BigChocFrenzy

I assumed DGRossetti had seen the Italian version posted by SabrinaThwaite.

BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2020 11:58

They gave factual information about their areas of expertise:
public health (Whitty) and Science (Vallance)

What it says on their tin

They don't do politics

70k currently infected and 6k new cases daily
New cases currently doubling about every 7 days, so hospitalisations & deaths to follow

Warnings about effects on NHS and deaths if this continues a few more weeks

DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 12:01

@Clavinova

DGRossetti I'll dig out the original and see what it says.

SabrinaThwaite at 10:29.

Yes, but I think that's incomplete. "In Questi giorni" literally means "In these days" and seems to refer to the previous paragraph. Otherwise the write would have said "recentemente/di recente", or "ultimamente" or "negli ultimi giorni"

If you think French is bad for being overly flowery, try reading (or watching) local Italian news.

The whole thing reads like a puff piece from the airports newsletter ...

DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 12:05

All not well at Tory Towers

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/party-that-rid-us-of-unaccountable-bureaucracy-criticised-for-becoming-unaccountable-bureaucrats/21/09/

Backbench Conservative MPs are set to rebel this week over government moves to renew the Coronavirus Bill which gives them power to implement lockdown measures without the consent of parliament.

Sir Graham Brady, chair of the influential 1922 committee, is expected to table an amendment which would force any government expansion of the bill to a vote in the commons.

He told The Sunday Telegraph that there is now “no justification for minister ruling by emergency powers without reference to normal democratic processes”, echoing concerns from others about suspect parliamentary manoeuvring.

(contd)

Clavinova · 21/09/2020 12:08

DGRossetti

Thank you - but are you agreeing with me?

SabrinaThwaite · 21/09/2020 12:08

in questi giorni translates to “in recent days” in the context of the sentence.

Google translate will give you “these days” as a literal translation as it doesn’t do context.

DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 12:11

@BigChocFrenzy

DG I have that issue when translating for people to or from German:

I often have to translate the whole sentence and of course a literl word for word translation sometimes makes no sense

Added issue that German often has a humungously long word where English would have a phrase to describe something 😂
Especially the title of some local government offices and jobs !

I vaguely recall Gerard Depardieu (admitted a "complex" character) being the victim of someone confusing "assister" (to witness, be present) with the English "assist" - which can completely change what someone is saying. And indeed did.
prettybird · 21/09/2020 12:16

Nicola has the CMO and the CSO on with her Shock - they're not usually on together Grin

Peregrina · 21/09/2020 12:16

Montalbano wasn't speaking Italian though, but Sicilian, which I understand has its own words.

DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 12:20

@Peregrina

Montalbano wasn't speaking Italian though, but Sicilian, which I understand has its own words.
I know (very well Smile). Not just own words. Own languages. My DF picked up quite a bit doing his national service and when he spoke to Sicilian customers it may as well have been Chinese. Seriously.

We had one customer who was so old he never learned Italian at school in Sicily in the late 1920s. He used us because my DF could understand him ...

DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 12:22

@Clavinova

DGRossetti

Thank you - but are you agreeing with me?

I'm saying I think the extract isn't complete. It's been cut and pasted.
prettybird · 21/09/2020 12:35

Oops Blush - I got Jason Leitch's title wrong. He's the National Clinical Director. He's a great communicator and tells it like it is Grinthat's you telt Wink

He does the rounds of TV and radio (often on BBC Breakfast because he's nice and clear). Every Saturday he's a guest on "Off the Ball" on Radio Scotland, a football chat show, to get the message across to those who might not watch the daily briefings.

SabrinaThwaite · 21/09/2020 12:47

I don’t think the press statement has been cut and pasted - it’s dated and with a title.

www.repubblica.it/esteri/2020/09/20/news/the_mystery_of_boris_johnson_s_trip_to_perugia_-267989244/

The airport has also confirmed that their press piece was correct.

Westministender: Amen to that!
DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 13:00

TBH, I'm more interested in the 1922 attempt to restrict the government via parliament ...

TokyoSushi · 21/09/2020 13:26

Sky News saying Johnson to address the Commons at 12:30 pm tomorrow after COBRA & Cabinet regarding the new restrictions.