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Westministender: Amen to that!

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RedToothBrush · 20/09/2020 20:52

On the Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, Johnson went to Westminster Abbey and was trolled. Its almost divine in its irony.

In a week where just about the entire right wing press has turned on him, for being... well shit... They have the dawning realisation that yes all those annoying lefties were right all along when they said he was full of nothing but hot air. He's been ridiculed for being paid £150,000 a year and not being able to feed his 5000 kids and the pictures to mark the anniversary of him becoming PM do little more than look like a man who couldn't tie his own shoe laces without a nanny to help him.

But its not really a laughing matter. This man doesn't understand what legal agreements he's signed so his solution to his ineptitude is to throw his toys out of the pram together with the rule of law. Which he also does not understand.

Johnson is also ever increasingly keen on ripping up inconvient human right and workers right and he has ample opportunity to do all this in the middle of a pandemic.

Unfortunately the hypocrisy of his cronies isn't exactly helping the behaviour of the public and you have to pity the poor behavioural scientists who have to tell him that 'of course the public are going to give you the vs when you tell them you shouldn't do this when your chief advisor claims to be maybe going blind'.

It seems the whole government strategy on managing the virus seems to be falling flat on its face rather sooner than planned cos they stuck Dildo in charge who wouldn't know her Rs from her elbow if it hit her in the face. And we've got Hancock going full on 1984, telling us not to believe the reports that no one can get a test because its all lies - except half the country has either first hand experience of the travesty of Track and Trace or has a close mate who they know is a hell of a lot more reliable than any of these fuckwits when it comes to telling the truth.

Meanwhile in America Bader Ginsburg has managed to die at possibly the most inconvient and dangerous time possible just as the future of democracy in the US is clinging on by its finger nails.

And yes. Money laundering. Haven't we talked about that a lot on these threads. Its almost as if FinCEN was predictable...

Taking back control was always about the elite taking back control from the masses. But if you've managed to keep following all this time, we've been saying that since April 2016 and no one listened then, so why would they start listening now?

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BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2020 09:31

@TheElementsOfMedical

OhDearHowSadAndUnexpected Grin

twitter.com/shashj/status/1307612213897814017?s=20

"The Government has formally scrapped Theresa May’s plans for a British version of the GPS satellite navigation programme, leading to parts of Whitehall now pushing for the UK to rejoin the EU’s Galileo system"

... Another fuckup probably more millions spaffed up the wall

but there are so many govt fuckups that most don't even get noticed

SabrinaThwaite · 21/09/2020 09:33

It was the weekend of 11th-14th September that Johnson was allegedly partying with his Russian mates.

Not a good look given the FinCEN revelations this weekend, and news that Tory donors the Chernukhins have been accepting Kremlin money.

Clavinova · 21/09/2020 09:49

Exclusive: according to an official statement of the Italian airport dated September 17th, the British prime minister “travelled to Perugia over the past few days”.

The translation will probably turn out to mean, "in recent times" and not the "past few days".

BigChocFrenzy · 21/09/2020 10:00

What's the official Tory line over the party, PM and several prominant Tory MPs accepting large donations from "Russian businessmen"

As at least one of those donors has been given a peerage; donations obviously give them influence

Maybe one of them will take a top job instead of Dido Harding though - couldn't do much worse !

SabrinaThwaite · 21/09/2020 10:04

@Clavinova

Exclusive: according to an official statement of the Italian airport dated September 17th, the British prime minister “travelled to Perugia over the past few days”.

The translation will probably turn out to mean, "in recent times" and not the "past few days".

Nice try, but hard to spin that when the official airport press release says that Johnson’s visit was preceded by Tony Blair, reported to be visiting Perugia from 8th to 11th September.
DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 10:08

@TheElementsOfMedical

OhDearHowSadAndUnexpected Grin

twitter.com/shashj/status/1307612213897814017?s=20

"The Government has formally scrapped Theresa May’s plans for a British version of the GPS satellite navigation programme, leading to parts of Whitehall now pushing for the UK to rejoin the EU’s Galileo system"

Which ain't ever gonna happen.
FatCatThinCat · 21/09/2020 10:08

I'm so fucking angry today. We're being stripped of our UK bank accounts and credit cards as a result of brexit. How can people live with themselves knowing that they voted to do so much damage to their fellow citizens, and my case to their own bloody family? Honest to god, I can't wait until the brexit turkey comes home to roost and bites them on the fucking arse. Bastards!

HoneysuckIejasmine · 21/09/2020 10:19

@Clavinova

Exclusive: according to an official statement of the Italian airport dated September 17th, the British prime minister “travelled to Perugia over the past few days”.

The translation will probably turn out to mean, "in recent times" and not the "past few days".

I've got to know, is there ever going to be a point at which you'll admit that the actions of a Conservative government has been anything less that perfect? Most people have a red line somewhere. Do you? What could they do to make you say "enough is enough"?

Fatcat I'm so sorry to hear that. Why is that happening (other than "because Brexit")?

Clavinova · 21/09/2020 10:21

SabrinaThwaite
Nice try, but hard to spin that when the official airport press release says that Johnson’s visit was preceded by Tony Blair, reported to be visiting Perugia from 8th to 11th September.

The official press release doesn't appear to specify any dates for when Boris Johnson or Tony Blair passed through the airport.

FatCatThinCat · 21/09/2020 10:25

Fatcat I'm so sorry to hear that. Why is that happening (other than "because Brexit")?

Because the government have failed to negotiate passporting rights for banks to continue to operate in the EU. After the 31st December it will be illegal to have a UK account unless you have a residential address in the UK. Banks can negotiate licences with each individual member state but this is costly and complicated. Banks are now deciding whether they'll do this or not. Barclays and Lloyds have already said they won't and are informing customers that their accounts will be closed.

pointythings · 21/09/2020 10:27

Honeysucklejasmine I wonder that too. That level of party loyalty is beyond my comprehension. It's like the diehard Trump supporters - their man could kill and eat a baby on the street and they'd still vote for him.

52andblue · 21/09/2020 10:28

Amen to that, @quiteathome
also fed up with living 'in interesting times'

PMK

Thanks @RedToothBrush

SabrinaThwaite · 21/09/2020 10:29

It doesn’t need to specify dates, just that Johnson was there between Blair and Suarez.

Over the past few days, many names and personalities from the political, sporting and economic world have arrived here in Perugia. From Prada CEO Patrizio Bertelli to the British PM Boris Johnson, preceded by Tony Blair (former UK premier) and not least the champion footballer Luis Suarez from Barcelona, who landed this afternoon to take an Italian language exam at the University for Foreigners of Perugia.

And definitely contradicts the No 10 statement that Johnson hasn’t travelled to Italy “in recent months”.

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Chersfrozenface · 21/09/2020 10:30

@Clavinova

SabrinaThwaite Nice try, but hard to spin that when the official airport press release says that Johnson’s visit was preceded by Tony Blair, reported to be visiting Perugia from 8th to 11th September.

The official press release doesn't appear to specify any dates for when Boris Johnson or Tony Blair passed through the airport.

No, but journalists use more than one source.
Clavinova · 21/09/2020 10:34

Repubblica -
"That Monday morning, September 17th, Johnson and the British Home Secretary, Priti Patel, were due to visits in London, then everything was cancelled at the last moment. That afternoon Downing Street added that Johnson “was in London and attended a coronavirus meeting in the morning”.

September 17th was a Thursday.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 21/09/2020 10:34

The issue affecting bank accounts was covered on R4's Money Box on Saturday.
More unforeseen consequences for some.

DGRossetti · 21/09/2020 10:36

Sorry FatCatThinCat

Banks can negotiate licences with each individual member state but this is costly and complicated.

And it will be this x100 that will strangle any UK side benefits of a US trade deal, even if one gets negotiated. Because it will only be at a federal level. Individiul states will still have their own twiddles on top of that. So that means a UK company could face 50 differing standards and specs, depending what their industry is.

SabrinaThwaite · 21/09/2020 10:40

@Clavinova

Repubblica - "That Monday morning, September 17th, Johnson and the British Home Secretary, Priti Patel, were due to visits in London, then everything was cancelled at the last moment. That afternoon Downing Street added that Johnson “was in London and attended a coronavirus meeting in the morning”.

September 17th was a Thursday.

I’m sure even the Italian press has typos.
Mistigri · 21/09/2020 10:43

You can always tell when the CONS are bothered about something when their Official Mumsnet Cheerleader pitches up on this thread to put us all right Grin

Takeaway: Boris did go to Italy and they know it looks terrible.

Mistigri · 21/09/2020 10:45

Also, apparently from the Telegraph, via Twitter:

^"... backbenchers certainly believe @antoguerrera's excl, claiming the PM was in Perugia this month.

One tells me the background on his Zoom call with Tory MPs that Friday "definitely wasn't the normal room in No 10""^

Peregrina · 21/09/2020 10:48

September 17th was a Thursday.

Yep, and the Pope's a Catholic. As my late DF would have said ' You're a beggar for finding things out.' Or in today's terms: "No shit Sherlock". Those who know or can work out what the Italian says can see that the date wasn't specified, but the date of the notice was 17th, the Thursday.

pollyannaperspective · 21/09/2020 10:48

Was that the call with back benchers where Boris also 'dropped out'for a while?

Perhaps Carrie wanted a more authentic Catholic Covid secure christening for Wilfred and 'our Russian friend' obliged?

Jason118 · 21/09/2020 10:48

He needed a break, poor love.

Clavinova · 21/09/2020 10:48

Over the past few days, many names and personalities from the political, sporting and economic world have arrived here in Perugia.

Well, OK, I've just put the words into google translate and "these days" is their translation. Sounds like airport name dropping to me.

Clavinova · 21/09/2020 10:50

Sounds like the airport was name dropping to me.