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Westministender: Amen to that!

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RedToothBrush · 20/09/2020 20:52

On the Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, Johnson went to Westminster Abbey and was trolled. Its almost divine in its irony.

In a week where just about the entire right wing press has turned on him, for being... well shit... They have the dawning realisation that yes all those annoying lefties were right all along when they said he was full of nothing but hot air. He's been ridiculed for being paid £150,000 a year and not being able to feed his 5000 kids and the pictures to mark the anniversary of him becoming PM do little more than look like a man who couldn't tie his own shoe laces without a nanny to help him.

But its not really a laughing matter. This man doesn't understand what legal agreements he's signed so his solution to his ineptitude is to throw his toys out of the pram together with the rule of law. Which he also does not understand.

Johnson is also ever increasingly keen on ripping up inconvient human right and workers right and he has ample opportunity to do all this in the middle of a pandemic.

Unfortunately the hypocrisy of his cronies isn't exactly helping the behaviour of the public and you have to pity the poor behavioural scientists who have to tell him that 'of course the public are going to give you the vs when you tell them you shouldn't do this when your chief advisor claims to be maybe going blind'.

It seems the whole government strategy on managing the virus seems to be falling flat on its face rather sooner than planned cos they stuck Dildo in charge who wouldn't know her Rs from her elbow if it hit her in the face. And we've got Hancock going full on 1984, telling us not to believe the reports that no one can get a test because its all lies - except half the country has either first hand experience of the travesty of Track and Trace or has a close mate who they know is a hell of a lot more reliable than any of these fuckwits when it comes to telling the truth.

Meanwhile in America Bader Ginsburg has managed to die at possibly the most inconvient and dangerous time possible just as the future of democracy in the US is clinging on by its finger nails.

And yes. Money laundering. Haven't we talked about that a lot on these threads. Its almost as if FinCEN was predictable...

Taking back control was always about the elite taking back control from the masses. But if you've managed to keep following all this time, we've been saying that since April 2016 and no one listened then, so why would they start listening now?

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52andblue · 23/09/2020 17:18

@DGRossetti

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@DGRossetti - that is very good!

I hope your day has picked up. Mine hasn't especially (nor got worse) but we got out for a blowy walk up on the moorland which always helps put things in perspective. Very grateful to be able to access countryside

DGRossetti · 23/09/2020 17:23

@DGRossetti - that is very good! I hope your day has picked up. Mine hasn't especially (nor got worse) but we got out for a blowy walk up on the moorland which always helps put things in perspective. Very grateful to be able to access countryside

Thank you for your kind wishes - pleased you got out. There's no doubt fresh air and a distant horizon are a boost to mental well being.

Preparing for an interview tomorrow, so almost crushed under the weight of an imposter syndrome.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 23/09/2020 17:27

DGR good luck for tomorrow and remember you're better than all the other impostors Wink

mrslaughan · 23/09/2020 17:27

So this is interesting.... and scary .
I know there are scientists on this thread, any thoughts?

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12366565

DGRossetti · 23/09/2020 17:29

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

DGR good luck for tomorrow and remember you're better than all the other impostors Wink
Well, as ever, time will tell. We're sorta running out of money a bit, which does tend to focus the mind wonderfully.
DGRossetti · 23/09/2020 17:32

and thanks ! (damn you MN, without your edit button).

52andblue · 23/09/2020 17:42

Ah GOOD LUCK for tomorrow ! Fingers crossed for you !

mrslaughan · 23/09/2020 17:45

Best of luck DGR!

DrBlackbird · 23/09/2020 17:46

The implication here is that somehow it is the hauliers and businesses fault for not being prepared

Definitely ready to blame those pesky hauliers. But what else is new? This is the government of all governments not to take any responsibility for anything at any time including children.

Good luck tomorrow DGR 🤞 just remember that you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you (money issues aside).

DGRossetti · 23/09/2020 17:51

Good luck tomorrow DGR 🤞 just remember that you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you (money issues aside).

Thanks all Blush . Best get back to Brexit, I am in danger of falling victim to magical thinking, which won't be good ....

Sostenueto · 23/09/2020 17:59

Good luck DGR tomorrow! You can smash this!

borntobequiet · 23/09/2020 18:01

Had to laugh listening to nonsensical interview on PM prog with a lady in the haulage sector being astonishingly positive about the prospect of apparently nine separate IT systems being up and running for Brexit. Plus the idea of getting permission to enter Kent? Evan Davies laughing in disbelief as well. Is that what your job interview is for DGR? Better get a move on if they make you an offer, the fate of the country will depend on it.
I really plan to properly start my forward purchasing this weekend, though am still overstocked with olive oil and (weirdly) jam.

mrslaughan · 23/09/2020 18:51

So apparently cabinet have consulted Sweden and their chief epidemiologist.....

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/23/england-new-covid-rules-too-little-too-late-for-the-second-time?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

Sorry - we're doomed

DGRossetti · 23/09/2020 19:03

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ListeningQuietly · 23/09/2020 19:10

DGR
You've been reading my FB feed again Wink

TheMShip · 23/09/2020 19:21

[quote mrslaughan]So this is interesting.... and scary .
I know there are scientists on this thread, any thoughts?

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12366565[/quote]
Disclaimer: I am not an epidemiologist. An infection fatality proportion of about 1% is consistent with everything I have read on the topic. Keeping in mind that this varies widely by age, and a little by sex (men somewhat more likely to die than women). See www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02483-2 and the attached plot.

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mathanxiety · 23/09/2020 19:33

The official press release doesn't appear to specify any dates for when Boris Johnson or Tony Blair passed through the airport.

Well it wouldn't, would it?

@Clavinova

TheElementsOfMedical · 23/09/2020 19:34

@caitlinmoran
So in order for Britain to leave the EU, Kent will have to leave Britain. This is an amazing plot twist.

Grin I guess, if Leavers "always knew what they were voting for," that means the people of Kent knew they were voting for Kent to Leave the UK and effectively join the EU Grin

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BigChocFrenzy · 23/09/2020 20:01

[quote DGRossetti]^@DGRossetti - that is very good! I hope your day has picked up. Mine hasn't especially (nor got worse) but we got out for a blowy walk up on the moorland which always helps put things in perspective. Very grateful to be able to access countryside^

Thank you for your kind wishes - pleased you got out. There's no doubt fresh air and a distant horizon are a boost to mental well being.

Preparing for an interview tomorrow, so almost crushed under the weight of an imposter syndrome.[/quote]
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Good luck with your interview tomorow, DG 👍

yoikes · 23/09/2020 20:03

Best of luck DG

TheMShip · 23/09/2020 20:09

Good luck DGR!

BigChocFrenzy · 23/09/2020 20:11

Fatality Rate depends very much on the age demographics

Spiegelhalter calculated that if 5,000 x 30-year-olds caught Covid, only about 3 would die
However, looking at the stats, 5,000 people aged 80+ would have likely have > 500 deaths

So e.g. a developing country with e.g. mean age 20, as in some African countries would have a v low death rate

For developed countries, which have a lot of older people, studies have found rates ranging from 0.36% (Uni Bonn Gangelt study, Germany) to 1.3 % in parts of N Italy

Current estimates for the general population in most Western countries are about 0.6%, but this will fall as treatments improve

Whitty's calculations on Sunday seemed to be using 0.4% death rate for the UK

SwedishEdith · 23/09/2020 20:15

[quote TheElementsOfMedical]**@caitlinmoran
So in order for Britain to leave the EU, Kent will have to leave Britain. This is an amazing plot twist.

Grin I guess, if Leavers "always knew what they were voting for," that means the people of Kent knew they were voting for Kent to Leave the UK and effectively join the EU Grin[/quote]
Saw this about Lisa O'Carroll's tweet

Tiernan Douieb
@TiernanDouieb

Saddest thing about this is that Kent actually has a Deal

Don't know whether to laugh or cry at this mess.

mathanxiety · 23/09/2020 20:15

20 July 2016;
"Dido Harding looks to have steadied the ship at TalkTalk less than a year after the cyberattack which affected more than 150,000 customers last autumn."

Is that another way of saying she was good at shutting the stable door after the horse had bolted?

BigChocFrenzy · 23/09/2020 20:18

NewsThump@newsthump

NEWS!
Kent purchased by NCP

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