Westminstenders: PreGrades (Minority Report comes to the UK)

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In Aug 2020, London, DC's prototype 'PreGrades' launched from the education department stops plebs before they go to university, reducing the social mobility rate to zero percent. Social mobility is predicted using specialized mutated humans, called "Teachers", who "predict" grades by marking shit lots of course work and exams over a period of years. Would-be social climbers are knocked down in a computer algorithm which distorts reality and hits the disadvantaged hardest. Central government is on the verge of adopting the controversial program nationwide by applying it in all departments from the DWP, the Home Office, the Department of Health and the Department of Justice to predict benefit fraud, getting sick asylum seeking and crime before it occurs.

DC's vision of the future is based on excellence being genetically ingrained into the elite but he must sell this vision to the unsuspecting public in a series of public votes which rely on the idea of the 'undeserving'. Little do they know that they too will be the victims of this plan until a mysterious bug appears and only the wealthy and well connected are able to get hold of adequate PPE and they are no longer able to buy bog roll nor retire to Spain as they had previously and endless queues for pizza form near Kent.

they will pretty much guarantee never to win another election

Once again, that's if there's another election.

Don't forget though DGR that all Empires and Regimes eventually fail. Surprising though it might seem right now, the Tories might be at the beginnings of their death throes.

The current A Level results debacle won’t last 4 years. It’s unlikely to feature prominently in 2024 election campaigning.

It will be interesting, however, to see the relative impact of the memories of those affected by this whole shitshow, of which the exam results are just one element (but one that new voters may well remember vividly) and the campaigning in the run-up to the event.
But that's a long way off and a whole lot of scummy water will have flowed under the bridge by then.

I think there will be a GE in 2024 or whenever. Feck knows what it'll look like, though, and what input the likes of Cambridge Analytica will have.

Younger voters are very aware that they are being utterly ignored by this government.
The memories of the morning after the Brexit vote are visceral for those at and finishing University.
This will be the same.
The exam debacle will not be a topic for middle aged journos in 4 years time
but it will impact how people vote.

The challenge will be getting those disaffected young people to actually vote and not just disengage completely from politics on the basis that "all politicians lie" and "what difference will it make?"

I know we have politically engaged dcs - but we are not exactly typical of the general population.

@Peregrina

Don't forget though DGR that all Empires and Regimes eventually fail. Surprising though it might seem right now, the Tories might be at the beginnings of their death throes.

Well yes. The Roman republic became an empire and last 4 centuries before falling.

It's hard not to divine we are in the last days of our republic, or the monarchy that preceded it.

Boris loves his classical allusions. I wonder how he feels to be a Tarquin ? Whose family name was (and I am not making this up) Superbus I wonder what was written on the side of his ?

I think the results will stay with the young people for a long time. For some it will work out OK. There are some reports of people being offered better courses or universities despite officially not meeting the grade, and as long as they are happy on the course it will have turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

But for those who have e.g. missed out on medical or veterinary school, who might have to try again, or might not be in a position to, it's going to hit them very hard and is likely to rankle. It's one thing to sit an exam, fluff it, and lose a place because of it. Quite another because a flawed process has downgraded you.

"The current A Level results debacle won’t last 4 years"

There are still people who won't vote LibDem because of the fees debacle in 2010-2015

But for those who have e.g. missed out on medical or veterinary school, who might have to try again,

But with next years applicants already beginning that journey, will tehre be space ?

If it weren't for the fact that provision of university education is such a commercial field it can't be allowed to go away, this clusterfuck might have finally done for the point of getting a degree.

I wonder what the international standing of UK qualifications will be after all this ? Luckily, given the crimp on freedom of movement, it's largely an irrelevance now. Not sure if that's a silver lining or not.

I think the A- level grades have made Rory and potential Tory voters very angry.
Dsis has had email from their headmaster and something I didn't realise was CAGs had already been scaled. So not only were they set via a really rigorous criteria, they were then submitted and the school told how to scale them.
Then they were runs through this algorithm, which smacks of Gove - we can't have people acheiving beyond their capabilities., I mean once your through uni you A levels mean fuck all.
And algorithm- Cummings , and his obsession with tech. Gav will be the fall guy - but it's symptomatic of a government promoted above its ability.
DSis lives in a very blue area , I have encouraged her and dnephew and all his friends to write to their MP. He's a cunt, but he'll want to stay in his job.

Doesn't sound like a Goveism to me, I thought he wanted everyone to be above average?

@Jason118

Doesn't sound like a Goveism to me, I thought he wanted everyone to be above average?

I thought that was Jon Lord ? Everything louder than everything else ?

it’s not like young people getting screwed over is something new. Tuition fees, generation rent, insecure employment, unaffordable property, low pay, brexit etc. Might damage other parties but not the Tories apparently.

A-level results: No 10 hints algorithm set to be ditched in England

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/17/no-10-hints-ministers-set-ditch-a-level-results-algorithm-england

4pm announcement

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53807854
A-levels and GCSEs: Predicted results to be used for Welsh exam grades

Just announced

[quote prettybird]Gavin Williamson is doomed , doomed I tell you

A-level exams row: PM has 'confidence' in Gavin Williamson and Ofqual [[http://news.sky.com/story/a-level-exams-row-pm-has-confidence-in-gavin-williamson-and-ofqual-12051028]][/quote]
Yep. I smell blood.

The best Williamson can hope for is surviving until the next reshuffle where he gets offered (another) demotion.

Its such a shame when idiots get promoted above their ability isn't it?

I hope there's a U turn in England. It's the least worst option.

I say this as someone whose DD2, if this had happened last year, would have lost out using predicted grades as she somehow managed to hit everything optimally in the exams.

We may hear again from BJ:

"Gavin Williamson has my complete confidence"

which means he is Dead Man Walking

Although with a govt that keeps reappointing Grayling, he may become a standing zombie,
or step down for 3 months and be shifted sideways

BJ needs / is dominates by Cummings; he doesn't need Williamson

So a U-turn for England is not a fundamental political problem,
whereas ruining the plans - maybe life - of tens of thousands of English students - especially - will fester for many year

Just depends what BJ / Cummings think will cause them - not the Tory party - the least damage, while they personally are in power

They don't care about longterm definitely in the camp of
"après moi le déluge"

Dominos falling, falling ....

Scotland
Wales
NI expected to follow shortly

It would be politically even more disastrous if English students were the only ones to have their hopes crushed

“This is it,” Williamsontold the Times on Saturday.
“No U-turn, no change.”

but as Harold Wilson said:

"A week is a long time in politics"

.... and for this government, a weekend is a long time
and Williamson is now on about 3.0 Graylings as a score of far-reaching incompetence....

It would be politically even more disastrous if English students were the only ones to have their hopes crushed

Would do wonders for Scottish English independence, maybe ?

But overturning the results now, is still going to leave a mess. What of those who have accepted alternative university places - are the old offers going to be re-instated?

Did the Tories really not know what a fiasco this would turn out to be?

Did the Tories really not know what a fiasco this would turn out to be?
The less thick ones did
but they are not in the cabinet

Amusing