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Westminstenders: PreGrades (Minority Report comes to the UK)

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RedToothBrush · 15/08/2020 19:54

In Aug 2020, London, DC's prototype 'PreGrades' launched from the education department stops plebs before they go to university, reducing the social mobility rate to zero percent. Social mobility is predicted using specialized mutated humans, called "Teachers", who "predict" grades by marking shit lots of course work and exams over a period of years. Would-be social climbers are knocked down in a computer algorithm which distorts reality and hits the disadvantaged hardest. Central government is on the verge of adopting the controversial program nationwide by applying it in all departments from the DWP, the Home Office, the Department of Health and the Department of Justice to predict benefit fraud, getting sick asylum seeking and crime before it occurs.

DC's vision of the future is based on excellence being genetically ingrained into the elite but he must sell this vision to the unsuspecting public in a series of public votes which rely on the idea of the 'undeserving'. Little do they know that they too will be the victims of this plan until a mysterious bug appears and only the wealthy and well connected are able to get hold of adequate PPE and they are no longer able to buy bog roll nor retire to Spain as they had previously and endless queues for pizza form near Kent.

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boatyardblues · 16/08/2020 00:54

It must have rankled that Wales and Scotland were doing better in the excess mortality data...

TaxTheRatFarms · 16/08/2020 01:43

Oh, interesting boatyardblues They’ve referenced “Britain” rather than England haven’t they Shock

BigChocFrenzy · 16/08/2020 06:48

Reorganisation in the middle of a pandemic is maybe not a good idea

PHE was the result of a disastous reorganisation - to cut costs - which slashed the number of professional public health officers from 10,000 to about 360

Biggest concern about thiis if true, is that it should be led by someone with talent and expertise

..... but the head is tipped to be Dido Harding, the female Grayling

Peregrina · 16/08/2020 07:04

PMK

I just hope that people don't forget the shit shows that this Govt have been in charge of.

Got Brexit done maybe, without bothering to read the small print, so are now whining about it. A What about Corbyn? isn't your 'Get out of jail' card, he didn't stand over you and stop you troubling yourselves to read the Withdrawal Agreement.

Then made a mess of dealing with Covid. Which no one could have forseen except that countries in the Far East like Taiwan, Vietnam and Singapore did, and knew how to deal with.

The lockdown scheme that was being complied with until the unelected Cummings decided to go driving the length of the country.

They have now messed up the exam 'results' of what will be two cohorts of young people. Don't forget that young people who are awaiting GCSES 'results' this week will also be old enough to vote at the next GE. Remember this young people what the current mob who pass themselves off as a Tory Government have done for your future.

I just feel a slow, cold anger about them all.

Peregrina · 16/08/2020 07:07

Reorganisation in the middle of a pandemic is maybe not a good idea

With the current talentless mob, whose only reason for being promoted to Government was their true Brexit credentials, any reorganisation, at any time, will be a disaster. I don't doubt it will be launched as 'World beating' though.

BigChocFrenzy · 16/08/2020 07:13

BLM ...... commemorate the end of the Past British Rail colour bar

This is what I regard as quite "recent" British history, since I was around in the 1950s & 1960s, even if a child.
Irish workers were restricted too

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/15/union-leaders-remember

Union leaders have praised the “brave actions” of a railway worker who overturned a racist recruitment policy in the 1960s.

Black workers had been barred from taking jobs as guards and porters at Euston station

while Irish workers at Paddington were restricted to labouring roles in the goods yard and similar restrictions applied at other stations

Peregrina · 16/08/2020 07:41

Now they have messed up the Appeals process.
Just imagine how the MSM and the Tory party would be screaming if a Labour Government had made such a mess.

RedToothBrush · 16/08/2020 08:28

Peregina, todays sunday telegraph have announced it as if teachers predicted grades can now be used for university applications - after Williamson said that would lead to a generation being over promoted beyond their ability and thats why they needed the algorithm in the first place.

The whole thing is a farce which just looks its used covid as a mechanism to 'keep people in their place' based on their socio economic status.

The thing is, this story isnt going away. The government can't spin it away on Monday. Unfortunately its got at least another two weeks to run as we have GCSEs to come this week.

As for PHE this is all about Cummings strategy to 'burn everything to the ground and start again' mentality in terms of state institutions. Trouble is you need to understand the need and purpose of said institutions before you start doing that and when you and all your cronies are private school toffs without a clue, you are well and truly going to make a hash of that.

Btw where's Starmer?

I have to say, is his strategy to stay quiet during the next six months so that he can just let the shit hit the fan and not get embroiled in 'but if Corbyn had been in charge' mentality over covid and brexit, and instead is waiting until the dust is starting to settle on this shit show? Cos he seems noticeably absent right now.

Westminstenders: PreGrades (Minority Report comes to the UK)
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TheMShip · 16/08/2020 08:36

Starmer isn't exactly invisible Red. He's giving interviews, meeting students and parents, saying the teacher assigned grades should stand. Parliament isn't in session, what more do you expect him to be doing?

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/a-levels-grading-system-exams-injustice-keir-starmer-labour-a9670391.html%3famp

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53776938

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8626773/Keir-Starmer-demands-Level-standardisation-DROPPED.html

HoneysuckIejasmine · 16/08/2020 08:50

That telegraph excerpt is misleading. "Takes in to account pupils prior attainment" Hmm which pupils, Ofqual?

Btw whilst I could relatively confidently rank an A level class of 10 or so, there's absolutely no way I could rank a whole GCSE class, let alone if there were parallel top sets and I only taught them for one science. Our own data would give a rough guide of who is in which grade bracket, but within the bracket it's a very grey area. What a nightmare.

Peregrina · 16/08/2020 08:59

Sky is now reporting that Ofqual turned down help from two experts from the Royal Statistical Society, because they refused to sign non-disclosure agreements.

Well, we have had enough of experts, haven't we?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 16/08/2020 09:11

I've started an exam specific thread with this statement.
"Last night, just hours after setting out their exams appeal process, Ofqual withdrew their statement. You can't make it up.

The orginal statement outlined what they considered a valid mock to be, whether an actual exam or other timed, invigilated piece. It also stated that if the mock grade were higher than the CAG then the CAG would stand. Thus implying that CAGs were more valid than mocks.

Now it has been withdrawn and to be replaced with what??

Universities are in an impossible situation. All of them over offer, knowing that some students won't obtain their grades. They have numbers capped by the government. They also have finite accomodation and resources and in this covid world have to try and keep students as un crowded and apart as possible.

Oxford have released a statement www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-08-15-university-statement-2020-admissions

In the mean time, we have students lives, shattered by an algorithm, with no sign that anyone knows what they are doing. They can appeal their grades apparently, but no one yet knows what an appeal will look like. So they are stuck in limbo, with term approaching, not knowing where they will be living in a month or sos time.

It's a shit show that was obvious was coming."

PackagingDisaster · 16/08/2020 09:19

Pmk

Peregrina · 16/08/2020 09:25

But with their 80 seat majority (or is it really 79 with Julian Lewis not having the whip), who is going to hold them to account?

I had hoped that the Dominic Cummings "testing his eyesight" farrago would have been their Poll Tax, but it was brushed off. I hope that this could now be their Poll Tax. Mrs T was warned about the stupidity of persisting with the Poll Tax - if anyone warned this crowd they were too cloth-eared to listen.

That is assuming that there is something inside their heads in the first place, which you have to wonder with Raab not understanding that Britain is an island, and Shapps not yet able to tell the time.

quiteathome · 16/08/2020 09:36

My friend died earlier this year. Her oldest child is waiting for GCSE results. The family has been destroyed this year, without this.

Violetparis · 16/08/2020 09:49

Andy Burnham is looking at a legal challenge to the exams fiasco, he gave a great, passionate interview on BBC Breakfast yesterday calling out the unfairness of it all. He's doing a great job as Mayor of Greater Manchester on this issue.

yoikes · 16/08/2020 09:56

But the appeals process isn't even live yet is it?...
And legal challenges are all well and good but will take time...
Ths cohort have been totally shafted.
And my ds1s cohort (next years A level exam students) will be too because this year has been such a disaster that they will be expected to sit exams in subjects that they have missed 4 months teaching on!
Ofqual have said the A level exams next year (unlike gcses) will not change...
Fieldwork?
Lab time?
It's an utter utter shambles

Violetparis · 16/08/2020 10:08

A legal challenge will take time but the immediate threat of one may influence how the government acts.

BackInTime · 16/08/2020 10:10

The appeals are going to be monumental with GCSEs on top. I doubt the task force will be able to cope with what's about to hit them. They are also doing their best distraction technique to make this story go away like they did with Cummings but I think they are underestimating the wrath of parents in this situation.

FrankieStein402 · 16/08/2020 10:20

Nick Gibb (minister for school standards), on Friday's any questions, insisted to an upset teen that there was a 'robust' appeals process in place.

Peregrina · 16/08/2020 10:22

The Govt deserve everything that's coming to them. If they weren't so pig headed they could have looked to other countries and copied best practice. So for exams, they could have copied the Germans - but oh no, they aren't going to copy the Krauts are they?

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 16/08/2020 10:41

Its okay though isnt it. Eton is fine. Presumably the minister's kids are all fine so its just messy public ...

DGRossetti · 16/08/2020 10:45

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for the appeals process. Regardless of the outcome, the government cam just walk it's 79 majority into the HoC and vote to neutralise it's rulings.

They did it when they lost the case about Workfare and were faced having to pay out to the victims, so it's (a) in their nature and (b) not unprecedented.

That's before you remember the reams of judgements against the Home Office that have been ignored.

DGRossetti · 16/08/2020 10:50

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631473/Did-Jeremy-Corbyns-Marxist-henchman-Seumas-Milne-infect-Boris-Johnson-coronavirus.html

Did Jeremy Corbyn's Marxist henchman Seumas Milne infect Boris Johnson AND Dominic Cummings with coronavirus during Downing Street visit?

(Betteridges law applies)

Maybe the brexiteers are steering well clear because even they can't defend this ?

DGRossetti · 16/08/2020 10:52

Does anyone have a map of the UK when the seas 6m higher ?

news.sky.com/story/greenlands-ice-has-melted-beyond-return-study-suggests-12049724

Greenland's ice sheet may have melted beyond the point of return, with the ice likely to disappear no matter how quickly the world reduces climate-warming emissions, research suggests.

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