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Westministenders: Don't forget to stockpile. Again.

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RedToothBrush · 04/08/2020 18:10

The government is telling pharmacists and drug manufactures to stockpile drugs ahead of the end of transition on 31st December.

In the middle of a pandemic.

What could go wrong?

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AuldAlliance · 12/08/2020 09:04

www.hepi.ac.uk/2020/08/10/a-levels-2020-what-students-and-parents-need-to-know/

Analysis of the cock-up here...

DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 09:28

The cosmic significance of a Brexit trade deal hinging on hard cheese really should alert Brexiteers as to what the Universe is saying.

You'd think.

The only way it could be more obvious, is if it emerges that sour grapes are pivotal to the next deal

ListeningQuietly · 12/08/2020 09:32

Wensleydale

DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 09:51

@ListeningQuietly

Wensleydale
Yes, sir ?
QueenOfThorns · 12/08/2020 11:05

No crackers, Gromit! We’ve forgotten the crackers! Grin

DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 11:21

@QueenOfThorns

No crackers, Gromit! We’ve forgotten the crackers! Grin
The whole governments crackers ....
DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 11:53

Who remembers people telling us that Brexit was like the Y2K bug, and we fixed that, didn't we ?

Oops.

www.newscientist.com/article/2229238-a-lazy-fix-20-years-ago-means-the-y2k-bug-is-taking-down-computers-now/

Parking meters, cash registers and a professional wrestling video game have fallen foul of a computer glitch related to the Y2K bug.

The Y2020 bug, which has taken many payment and computer systems offline, is a long-lingering side effect of attempts to fix the Y2K, or millennium bug.

Both stem from the way computers store dates. Many older systems express years using two numbers – 98, for instance, for 1998 – in an effort to save memory. The Y2K bug was a fear that computers would treat 00 as 1900, rather than 2000.

Programmers wanting to avoid the Y2K bug had two broad options: entirely rewrite their code, or adopt a quick fix called “windowing”, which would treat all dates from 00 to 20, as from the 2000s, rather than the 1900s. An estimated 80 per cent of computers fixed in 1999 used the quicker, cheaper option.

“Windowing, even during Y2K, was the worst of all possible solutions because it kicked the problem down the road,” says Dylan Mulvin at the London School of Economics.^

(contd)

It's probably terribly unfair of me, but I can hazard a guess at the sort of cowboy outfits Capita that went for the "lets kick it down the road" option.

You really, really, really could not make this stuff up.

DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 12:24

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Westministenders: Don't forget to stockpile. Again.
FrankieStein402 · 12/08/2020 12:57

Re y2k fixes - If anyone was kicking stuff down the road I'd have assumed most likely culprits to be E.. and possibly A........ This also predated the explosion of Indian software services corps.
I worked on multiple major y2k projects with a global consultancy - who specifically excluded that specific quick fix across the board - I'd be vaguely interested in the source of that 80% figure!

DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 13:19

@FrankieStein402

Re y2k fixes - If anyone was kicking stuff down the road I'd have assumed most likely culprits to be E.. and possibly A........ This also predated the explosion of Indian software services corps. I worked on multiple major y2k projects with a global consultancy - who specifically excluded that specific quick fix across the board - I'd be vaguely interested in the source of that 80% figure!
If true we won't have to wait long.

At least Y2K was foreseen. Looks like this doozy could just surface without warning.

Although I would be very concerned at undetected problems starting to destroy data integrity. That could be very difficult - if not impossible - to rectify.

prettybird · 12/08/2020 13:58

2020: the year that keeps on giving Hmm

BlackeyedSusan · 12/08/2020 14:57

Ex has already had to help fix code that only allowed dates to 2019. ( Only allowed a 0 or 1 in the tens column) I usually just nod and smile when he talks about work.

ListeningQuietly · 12/08/2020 15:02

Well I have my fingers and toes crossed that Kamala Harris might be what is needed to take the Elctoral College in the same direction as the popular vote

DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 15:20

@BlackeyedSusan

Ex has already had to help fix code that only allowed dates to 2019. ( Only allowed a 0 or 1 in the tens column) I usually just nod and smile when he talks about work.
Yes. That's the easy bit. Code you know is faulty.

The nightmare scenario is code you don't know is faulty slowly - and possibly irrevocably - infecting systems with a slow accumulation of shit data. Especially if your pension credits are involved ....

ListeningQuietly · 12/08/2020 18:00

In this sweltering weather, this cartoon bears posting again

Westministenders: Don't forget to stockpile. Again.
DGRossetti · 12/08/2020 18:05

@ListeningQuietly

In this sweltering weather, this cartoon bears posting again
I'm sure no one here will confuse weather and climate though ?

(He says, noting it's still 33/29 ....)

Peregrina · 12/08/2020 18:14

We have had a thunderstorm in Oxfordshire. it still seems very humid though.

BigChocFrenzy · 12/08/2020 18:46

@ListeningQuietly

In this sweltering weather, this cartoon bears posting again
... Listening That cartoon is bollocks

Brexit will kick the UK when it's down,
but COVID is worse than Brexit by orders of magnitude

Brexit would not kill ¾ million within a few months and counting

Brexit would not have put the UK into lockdown and continuing SD restrictions, let alone most developed countries too, even those not in the EU

BigChocFrenzy · 12/08/2020 18:47

Even for me as a retired immigrant, COVID has had far more effect on my life than Brexit will

BigChocFrenzy · 12/08/2020 18:51

btw, last night I found and reported yet another link to a notorious conspiracy site,
which was to a page which probably looked initially plausible as an alternative scientific pov claimed by the MN poster,
but was full of twisted cherry-picked stats and downright lies

Histories of previous epidemics have shown how conspiracy theories thrive,
as angry, desperate people turn away from reality to fantasy - and often scapegoats

BigChocFrenzy · 12/08/2020 18:56

It was of course pushing the Denialist agenda of "it's just flu"
They are notorious enough to be dissected on Wiki as a conspiracy site

Tanith · 12/08/2020 20:10

"Weather may be, but Climate is!" Smile

ListeningQuietly · 12/08/2020 20:16

BigChoc
I reposted because of the third wave
and if anybody is still telling themselves that the changing weather patterns
I grow vegetables .... I know how the rainfall has changed over the last 30 years
are "weather" rather than "climate" change
they really need to wake up

COVID has been good for the fight against climate change
Brexit will be bad for it
but Climate change will be a fight for all our lives
not just the 1 in 1000 that COVID hits

BigChocFrenzy · 12/08/2020 21:04

Brexit is a very local stupidity
Britain no longer affects the world significantly

BigChocFrenzy · 12/08/2020 21:09

COVID has drastically accelerated some social changes around the world:
WFH, online shopping
which may indeed help the environment

However, in the short term, it is giving power to the far right & far left, who are able to harness the conspiracy nuts and the anti-vaxxers
It could lead to toppling populists like Trump, or to making more like him

COVID has caused a global recession, rising unemployment and generally reduced trust in government

All this mix will certainly have far more global effect than parochial Brexit and Brexiter fantasies

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