Westminstenders: Operation Shock and Awe

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The government is launching its get ready for the end of transition campaign which has been dubbed a 'shock and awe' campaign.

In this campaign we will learn all about what Brexit means and what amazing opportunities lie for having increased customs and borders, beaucracy and increased costs. Bet you are all really excited and looking forward to this.

We will also get a 'Farage Garage' in Kent to cope with these wonderful opportunities in traffic jams. This will be something that businesses throughout the country will be super excited to plan for in their socially distanced Zoom meetings or across warehouses with their face masks on. And banks will be delighted to see an uptick in applications in CCJs and debt reconstruction plans.

It will be a super fun time for the under 30s who have zero hours contracts, worked in retail or hospitality. Or should I say 'worked'.

Meanwhile the right to a jury trial has been binned due to 'long covid delays' which are shorter than they were several years ago. The NHS isn't getting the funding it expected, and waiting lists are longer than ever with no way to clear them. The plan to build more hospitals seems to have disappeared with the Nightingales. Many councils are about to go into insolvency and be taken over by accountancy firms. The civil service is being dismantled and conservative loyalists with no experience being put in charge of important functions of state. Communications with the press are being 'streamlined' to make them incredible of holding power to account and only able to repeat government public announcements.

Anyone looking forward to Christmas? When you write a letter to Santa remember to add 'visa application form', 'a sleeping bag for use at Dover', 'tinned tomatoes' and 'packets of seeds to grow your own' to the list.

Is this plan B for Brexit ?
(or are we somewhere near plan Z by now ?)

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/24/year-power-has-boris-got-brexit-done-name/

The only way the UK may now get a good deal is if it is prepared to repudiate the WA including, crucially, the Northern Irish Protocol.

To do so would not just require enormous political will, but enormous planning as well.

Re: Brexit sunny uplands lies ad, I've had an initial email saying my complaint was received and a further email saying it's being looked into.

Link:
www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html

There is no plan. That would involve work, compromise and telling the Leave faction they can't have everything they want.

Now remote working is the norm at DH's office, he is open to moving, so we are looking at the logistics of doing so. At More importantly, so are a lot of service companies. Why take the regulatory risk when you can relocate the head office to the EU and just leave your British employees at home? Of course, that means less UK corporate tax flowing through the Treasury.

The only way the UK may now get a good deal is if it is prepared to repudiate the WA including, crucially, the Northern Irish Protocol.

I can't read this because it's behind the paywall, but what does it mean. Repudiate the WA would mean No Deal wouldn't it?

Repudiating the WA would be back to a chaotic Brexit crash-out, not just No Deal
It would also make the UK an international pariah, whom noone would trust enough to sign a deal

So I think that article was just the Telegraph ranting about what it wants, rather than what will actually happen

I suspect the Uk will drag its feet over the NI Protocol - implementation work for that has already started too late - but that can be whitewashed over.

Where are our Irish Westminstenders?
I have a very good friend who is Irish , but has lived here for a long time. However his business involves backwards and forwards to ROI. There is a lot of negativity directed towards the English that he was talking about after his last trip. His first one in a long time. A lot of the negativity is around WM handling of Covid and then the perceived risk of the English taking it over there......
I wonder if it's widespread? I also wonder if it's because of brexit as well ? Covid just the icing on the cake so to speak...

Various links here
www.irishtimes.com/news/world/brexit

There is a lot of negativity directed towards the English that he was talking about after his last trip.

Well, without sounding too snippy, there is a queue forming.

Not really sure if China or India are at the head. I imagine - as benefits peoples whose civilisations began when Sparta v. Athens was the big draw - they will be delightfully polite over who goes first.

At the moment the Irish Government regard the Common Travel Area as defunct .....
www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/coronavirus/

Oh FFS
do they not realise the damage they do ?
news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-legal-fund-launched-for-former-labour-leader-as-he-faces-prospect-of-being-sued-12035443

[quote ListeningQuietly]Oh FFS
do they not realise the damage they do ?
news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-legal-fund-launched-for-former-labour-leader-as-he-faces-prospect-of-being-sued-12035443[/quote]
I really wish he would fuck off to his allotment.

The thing that frustrates me about the JC lobby, is they seem to forget , he had many chances to get elected - the electorate rejected him. And then he RESIGNED .... and was replaced.
You would think they would want someone from the left - even if they are not as left as they may like - to be elected. They will be better and help the people they profess to care about more, than any Tory shit show. But they are determined to undermine Starmer - and I believe anyone who is not JC.

Dimwit Corbyn, talk about being past his shelf life - except he already was before he became leader

Now he's trying to fuck up Starmer, because he can't bear to see him succeed with sensible policies

And the clique around him are worse, since they aren't past it

All of the Corbyn stuff is majorly distracting for Labour, along with the anti-semitism debate continuing (whereas zero on racism in Tories which we all know is b.s). I think this is Russia again funding Corbynista groups but they are peaking too soon for there to be "fun" for Putin further down the line again. I get the feeling they should wait for this until the next election then wheel out Corbyn in a wheelbarrow or something with people chanting and throwing red paint around.

Corbyn is - and always was - about ideological purity
my Corbynite friends think he is the socialist messiah
winning power is irrelevant
so long as your idea is better than theirs

I do have to take it back to Milliband allowing the £3 members to choose the leader
there are massive issues about choosing party leaders worldwide for which I've had too much cider tonight
but Corbyn set the balance back by a decade in the UK

My goodness the hypocrisy. Remainers/centrists spent a number of years sneering at Corbyn. He was undermined by elements within his own party. Why bother spending that time more constructively challenging the Tories? There has been no starmer bounce. If people want to vote Tory they'll vote for the real thing not the pound shop version. Worst government in living memory, covid debacle, why arent Labour 20 points ahead? What, it's all Jeremy's fault? Reap what you sow.

@GhostofFrankGrimes
There has been no starmer bounce
apart from the ones tracked by Yougov and Ipsos
What, it's all Jeremy's fault? Reap what you sow.
or maybe once RLB was roundly defeated JC should have acted like a grown up and fucked off back to his allotment
after delivering the worst Labour Electoral defeat for 70 years

FFS
Do you really think that raking over the embers of labour racism is a good move?

The JC lobby had a candidate in Rebecca Long-Bailey and she didn't get elected. It's no wonder that people reject Labour with this silly nonsense going on. The people who are doing the most damage to the UK are Johnson's Tory party, but Labour seem to be too wrapped up in their own petty squabbles to see this.

It reminds me of when I was at university, a long time ago now, and the International Marxist Group were at loggerheads with the group who became the Socialist Workers Party (they had another name, which I forget) and neither had any time for Labour. At the time we had a Tory Government, which was what they should have been campaigning against.

There has been a Starmer bounce, but it hasn't translated to a Labour bounce.

Peregrina
I'm on Yougov and Ipsos
polls are paid for
who is going to pay for a poll at the moment ?

Telling someone to fuck off back to their allotment isn't very grown up is it? There was never any intention to make Labour a broad church once JC was gone and as a result Labour will lose supporters. Having Blair endorse Starmers Labour wont help either, look how ineffective it was for the remain campaign. Voting intention still favours the Tories and by the time the next election rolls round there wont be anything left to fight for.

I've been sneering at Corbyn since he was first elected as an MP in 1983

He was a lazy dimwitted ideologue who would have reached the limit of his capability as student leader at a uni -

no, wait he couldn't even do that because he dropped out of his course,
not surprising he couldn't cope after only managing about 1 A level at grade E

Labour certainly wasn't a "broad church" under Corbyn, more like a political suicide pact

But Labour has already lost supporters. I noted that at the last election, where constituencies like Denis Skinner's had lower turnouts, which very much looked like Labour voters staying at home.