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Oh dear.

Who'd've thought?

And here we are, hurtling towards a No Deal Brexit.

Or how short are political memories?

What is a skeleton deal
please explain?

A deal that includes the bits both sides have agreed on (hopefully including tariffs) but not a fully comprehensive FTA.

A deal that includes the bits both sides have agreed on (hopefully including tariffs) but not a fully comprehensive FTA.
Tariffs are simple numbers.
What about the non tariff barriers - standards and the like ?
How do they fit into a skeleton deal?

What about the non tariff barriers - standards and the like?

Our standards haven't diverged yet - not a problem in the short term.

Our standards haven't diverged yet - not a problem in the short term.
But a trade deal with the EU that included them would preclude a trade deal with the USA which would exclude them

can you not see that ?

There's none so blind as those who will not see...

Except maybe those who are paid to be...

But a trade deal with the EU that included them would preclude a trade deal with the USA which would exclude them

Which doesn't make sense because the EU are also pursuing a free trade deal with the US. Canada plus, plus - call it what you will.

Which doesn't make sense because the EU are also pursuing a free trade deal with the US.
link please
especially to the bits about agriculture and food provenance

link please - especially to the bits about agriculture and food provenance

www.foeeurope.org/sites/default/files/gmos/2020/ngo_letter_eu_us_trade_gmo.pdf

Canada allows GMOs and hormone treated beef - and yet the EU pursued CETA (although not yet ratified by all member states). Canada also has an FTA with the US.

European Parliament
12 February 2019 Parliamentary questions:
Subject:Traceability, CETA, and GM food entering the EU via Canada.

"Under CETA, food imported into the EU from Canada has to conform to EU food safety rules."

"Canada imports food from countries—the United States being one— which do not impose labelling and traceability requirements for GM food."

"How can Canada give the necessary guarantees?"

www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-8-2019-000804_EN.html
www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-8-2019-000804-ASW_EN.html

ListeningQuietly

LSE Blog:
Not in my sandwich: How GMOs, hormones and values combined to make CETA and TTIP so heavily politicised.

"In the US and Canada, both GMOs and hormone beef were treated as any other food product–and were permitted unless proof of them being harmful is produced (precisely the opposite of the European approach)."

blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2019/10/31/not-in-my-sandwich-how-gmos-hormones-and-values-combined-to-make-ceta-and-ttip-so-heavily-politicised/

how is the sunset in moscow

Red sky at night...

Still no EU links that imply any trade deal then

US link here instead;

Congressional Research Service
U.S.-EU Trade Agreement Negotiations:
Trade in Food and Agricultural Products
February 27, 2020

"The Office of the U.S.Trade Representative (USTR) officially notified the Congress of the Trump Administration’s plans to enter into formal trade negotiations with the European Union (EU) in October 2018.In January 2019, USTR announced its negotiating objectives for a U.S.- EU trade agreement, which included agricultural policies-both market access and non-tariff measures.However, the EU’s negotiating mandate, released in April 2019, stated that the trade talks would exclude agricultural products" ...

"Public statements by U.S. and EU officials in January 2020, however, signaled that the U.S.-EU trade talks might include SPS and regulatory barriers to agricultural trade. Statements by U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) officials cited in the press call for certain SPS issues as well as GIs to be addressed in the trade talks.However, other press reports of statements by EU officials have downplayed the extent that specific non-tariff barriers would be part of the talks."

"More formal discussions are expected in the spring of 2020." ...

"The EU has taken certain measures to avoid escalating agricultural trade tensions with the United States.For example, it has expanded the U.S.-specific quota for EU imports of hormone-free beef,increased imports of U.S. soybeans as a source of biofuels, approved a number of long pending genetically engineered products for food and feed uses, and proposed to lift a ban on certain pest-resistant American grapes in EU wine production, and other trade-related measures."

fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R46241.pdf

More formal discussions are expected in the spring of 2020
its the end of July ....
got an EU link ?

ListeningQuietly
You mentioned NAFTA earlier.

1st July 2020;

"NAFTA is officially gone."

"Washington (CNN)The US-Mexico-Canada Agreement [USMCA] takes effect Wednesday, fulfilling President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign pledge to replace the North American Free Trade Agreement--which he's often referred to as "the worst trade deal ever made."

"US dairy farmers get more market access."

"The original NAFTA eliminated tariffs on most agricultural products traded among the three countries. Canada and Mexico are already the two biggest export markets for US farmers and ranchers.The USMCA will keep those tariffs at zero, while further opening up the Canadian market to US dairy, poultry and eggs.In return, the United States will allow more Canadian dairy, peanuts and peanut products, as well as a limited amount of sugar, to cross the border."

edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/politics/usmca-nafta-replacement-trump/index.html

Clav
NAFTA has been replaced.

Still waiting for a link about the EU doing a trade deal with the USA

Now Vodafone floating in Frankfurt instead of London.

Brexit is truly the gift that keeps on giving (to the Germans)...

I’ve read that article twice Hannibal and there is no mention of Brexit in there (or the other 6 articles I have just read on this)

From your link:

Vodafone insists it is logical to go for a Frankfurt float since the biggest part of the business is German

Chief executive Nick Read told the Standard the deal will happen despite the uncertainty cause by Covid-19 and the ongoing turbulence in stock markets

And this from another article I read:

Frankfurt was chosen over London because Germany was home to the biggest number of towers in the unit, he said

Vodafone also reported a 1.3% decline in first-quarter organic service revenue, which it said was mainly due to COVID-19 impacts, particularly on roaming revenue as customers locked down. It reiterated its guidance for the year

COVID is the the real game changer now, Brexit not so much.

There we go again.

"No, no, no, it's not Brexit's fault, it's all down to Covid!"

Muppets

Well, that is what the article said!!
Not sure using the word muppet was appropriate or necessary

2019 London
www.ft.com/content/d96bd82e-af6e-11e9-8030-530adfa879c2
2020 Frankfurt
www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/07/24/vodafone-float-european-towers-division-next-year/

All that has changed is Johnson's desire for a no deal Brexit
as the towers business is not directly impacted by COVID

All that has changed is Johnson's desire for a no deal Brexit
as the towers business is not directly impacted by COVID

I disagree, what has changed is Covid and the subsequent UK pullout of the Huawei deal.