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Miljea · 03/06/2020 22:27

Oh dear.

Who'd've thought?

And here we are, hurtling towards a No Deal Brexit.

Or how short are political memories?

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Clavinova · 27/07/2020 19:36

No change here;

"Vodafone named UK's worst mobile phone network for eighth consecutive year."

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-best-mobile-phone-networks-worst-vodafone-o2-a8882301.html

Clavinova · 27/07/2020 20:13

ListeningQuietly
Still waiting for a link about the EU doing a trade deal with the USA

I don't think I need another link - you haven't explained why Canada was able to sign an updated FTA with the US and Mexico ( "For poultry, Canada will provide new access for United States chicken and eggs and increase its access for turkey." ) - while at the same time EU member states are half way through the ratification of CETA (EU-Canada FTA) - France ratified CETA last year for example. Seems very inconsistent to me.

ListeningQuietly · 27/07/2020 20:17

Clavinova
You said that the EU is negotiating and FTA with the USA
it isn't

if the UK signs a trade deal with the EU
it will not be able to sign one with the USA

Clavinova · 27/07/2020 20:20

You said that the EU is negotiating and FTA with the USA
it isn't

Quite clearly there have been early discussions as per the links.

If the UK signs a trade deal with the EU it will not be able to sign one with the USA

But Canada can? And Australia?

ListeningQuietly · 27/07/2020 21:07

squirrels

HannibalHayes · 29/07/2020 22:41

It's really getting quite pathetic.

4, OK 5 now, years ago, any global company with a major UK presence would not even have considered listing in Frankfurt rather than London.

To suggest it's to do with the "number of masts" is, frankly, stupid.

But, I guess, they hope that in a few years they'll be listing in Moscow...

StormzyinaTCup · 29/07/2020 23:23

To suggest it's to do with the "number of masts" is, frankly, stupid

Again, that's what the article said. Have you read your link?

Here is another one for you

www.ft.com/content/16c2006f-7842-4bdd-a530-0f6c0c7dda16

Nick Read, chief executive of Vodafone, said the decision to opt for a German listing was unrelated to Brexit and driven by the fact that the bulk of the Vantage assets were in Germany. “The largest asset by a long, long way are the German towers,” he said.

Mr Read said he was “disappointed” with the government’s decision to ban the sale of new Huawei 5G equipment from next year and said Vodafone was in talks with the government about compensation measures

If you think the Chief Exec of Vodafone is talking bollocks I suggest maybe taking it up with him and not some randoms on the internet. It's getting tedious now and is, frankly, stupid.

HannibalHayes · 30/07/2020 11:40

Like so many other companies doing the same, like the Japanese car companies, they don't want to lose the custom of the idiot Brexshitters, so they desperately claim it's nothing to do with Brexit.

You'd have to be pretty simple to fall for it. Luckily for them, most Brexshitter are pretty simple.

HannibalHayes · 30/07/2020 12:08

5 years ago it wouldn't even have been a question. The listing in London would have been a given.

The fact that they've had to scrabble around for an excuse about the "number of masts" (well der, it's a bigger country) rather than admitting that the UK is rapidly losing relevance speaks volumes.

I bet they spent hours trying to find a way to blame Covid...

Clavinova · 30/07/2020 16:16

11 June;
"Unilever picks London as its home over Rotterdam."

"Anglo-Dutch conglomerate denies U-turn after finally choosing the UK capital over Dutch city as its HQ."

"The business secretary, Alok Sharma welcomed the Unilever plan, tweeting: “Delighted to see Unilever’s proposals to become a fully incorporated UK company–a clear vote of confidence in the UK.”

"The Dutch government, however, was disappointed by the latest review."

www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/unilever-picks-london-as-its-home-over-rotterdam

Clavinova · 30/07/2020 16:30

"Data recently released by KPMG [March] found that British fintech companies attracted over £38.4bn of investments in 2019, which was an increase of 91 percent from 2018. Across Europe, the UK accounted for half of the top 10 deals and currently holds pole position as the top destination for European fintech investment, second only to the US globally."

www.globalethicalbanking.com/london-remains-global-fintech-capital/

ListeningQuietly · 30/07/2020 17:35

Clavinova
Do they just pay you to C&P or are you allowed to have original thoughts as well?

was the sunset good in Moscow ?

HannibalHayes · 30/07/2020 17:45

"which was an increase of 91 percent from 2018"

And what was 2018 like compared to, say, 2015 or 2016?

Clavinova · 30/07/2020 18:22

HannibalHayes
"UK FinTech companies raised £3.07bn in 2017, more than the total of the previous three years combined."

fintech.global/uk-fintech-investments-hit-record-year-despite-brexit-uncertainties/

"£16bn investment into the UK’s fintech sector - the highest in Europe in 2018."

www.theglobalcity.uk/venture-capital-private-equity

ListeningQuietly
Wink

Clavinova · 31/07/2020 09:36

The FT link is behind a paywall - both links were looking at 2018.
EY's latest report (28 May 2020) has lots of positives,notwithstanding Covid and the need to attract more FDI to the regions - planned UK government investment in the regions will help going forwards. NB France overtook Germany for FDI in 2018.

"UK achieved a 5% increase in inbound FDI projects compared to 2018, ending three years of declining European market share since the EU Referendum."

"UK surged ahead in digital tech attracting 432 projects (36% increase), representing a 30% share of all European FDI projects, more than France and Germany combined."

"R&D projects increased to a decade high, evidencing the UK’s ongoing economic transformation."

"Investors perceive the UK to be resilient compared to European peers as Brexit fades as an influence on investment decisions."

"Despite losing the lead for total project numbers, 2019 was a strong year for the UK with a 5% increase in projects in a European market that grew by less than 1%."

"The UK performed particularly well in attracting new projects, as opposed to extensions of existing activities.There were 782 new investments in the UK in 2019—up 7.7% from 2018.This was the highest level since 2016 and the second-highest number of new projects secured by the UK in any year over the past decade.The UK has leapfrogged last year’s leader for new projects, Germany (which secured 770 new projects), into top spot."

"The research also shows that investors feel that FDI projects in the UK are well-placed to recover from the impact of COVID-19, and that the UK is likely to outperform the global market in attracting post-pandemic investment."

"The UK surged ahead in digital tech, attracting 432 projects (an increase of 114–36%–on the previous year) and attracting a 30% share of all European projects.The UK grew four times faster than the European average in this sector, securing more projects than France and Germany combined."

“Our report also shows a surge in UK headquartered (HQ) projects by 240% on the previous year" ... "a comparison with the European data suggests the UK performed strongly. Last year, the UK doubled its market share of all HQ projects locating in Europe to 33.6%, up from 16.8% in 2018."^

"The research suggests that the UK should remain relatively resilient in its ability to attract FDI this year, despite the impact of COVID-19. The report indicates that investor intentions towards the UK, compared to other FDI destinations in Europe, remain relatively positive when they look beyond the immediate impact of COVID-19."

"Survey respondents said that 65% of planned projects were still going ahead–including 6% who had actually increased their investment in light of COVID-19–with only 3% saying they had completely cancelled their plans. By contrast, the corresponding figures for Europe revealed a more cautious approach from investors, with 66% planning to decrease investment and 23% pausing it, against 17% and 15% respectively for the UK."

"Before COVID-19 changed the picture completely, 2020 was set to be a record year for UK FDI. At the start of the year, 31% of investors said they were planning to invest in the UK in 2020–a significant increase from 23% in last year’s survey.This was the highest positive sentiment for the UK in over a decade, and higher than the corresponding numbers for other European countries."

"An analysis of changes in the UK’s FDI project origins over the three years since the 2016 EU Referendum shows that the UK has been able to rebalance its investments to compensate for a decline in EU originated projects, further illustrating the transition underway in the UK economy."

"Meanwhile, investors appear less likely to regard Brexit as a risk factor, with just 24% of survey respondents citing it as a risk factor this year, compared to 38% last year."

www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2020/05/uk-misses-out-on-top-spot-for-fdi-in-2019-but-surged-ahead-in-digital-as-economy-transforms-new-ey-report

HannibalHayes · 31/07/2020 12:21

More irrelevant cut & paste waffle from Clavino-nothing...

Clavinova · 31/07/2020 13:14
Smile
beepbeepsheep · 31/07/2020 14:16

I thought this was baby names and came on to tell you it was a shit choice. As you were.

HannibalHayes · 31/07/2020 22:02

Which? Sunderland or Nissan?

beepbeepsheep · 01/08/2020 14:09

Both. First name Sunderland, surname Nissan.

HannibalHayes · 02/08/2020 00:04

Nah, other way round...

beepbeepsheep · 02/08/2020 19:54

Oh well in that case YANBU, congrats on baby Nissan Wink

Clavinova · 03/08/2020 07:56

Nissan Sunderland.

Reminds me of the names Donald Sutherland gave his children; Kiefer Sutherland, Rossif Sutherland, Roeg Sutherland...Nissan Sutherland...

Miljea · 15/09/2020 21:02

Clav - no one reads your posts! They really don't! They're long, cut'n'paste waffle. They add nothing to any post you respond to.

More or less no one responds to any 'point' your cut'n'paste has made.

You're monumentally wasting your time.

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