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Westministenders: The Truth Isn't A Made Up Concept

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RedToothBrush · 28/05/2020 16:46

“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

Not George Orwell but often attributed to him. But a powerful statement with resonance nonetheless

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OldLace · 29/05/2020 15:36

Piggywaspushed
Yes. It's bonkers, isn't it?
My Y8, ASD kid who was already struggling with a 50% timetable and thus due an Enhanced Transition :(
And my Y10 who will get a few hours F2F if he is lucky and then to hell with any adjustments re his exams next year.

I think Scotland's approach of staying off until next academic year begins (mid August for most) and then advising 50:50 school time and home working time is much clearer and more realistic. South Korea are closing schools again today (not necess because of a school caused spike, but still schools are affected). I have heard that Scottish Nat 5's might be 'expected grades' for next year but dont know whether theres any truth in it?

DGRossetti · 29/05/2020 15:42

I do hope somebody puts a tracker on his car so we can see what patterns his jouneys make

No need. It's a Land Rover. Inbuilt and being spaffed to goodness knows where ...

Tanith · 29/05/2020 15:49

"But this red wall takeover has seen a large crop of local candidates for local people, and it will be interesting to see how they go in what for many of them will be their one and only term as MP."

I wonder how loyal they are. Defections to other parties could see Johnson's majority shrink.

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2020 15:52

Doctor said he never removed them NHS did? Anyone else had this?

Its been on the news.

Yes, people who are cancer patients or immune surpressed after transplant have been removed without letting GPs know first. Patients have been told by text and have been distressed and asked clueless GPs about why they have been removed.

I'll see if I can find articles on it.

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Piggywaspushed · 29/05/2020 15:52

I think that has been intimated about Scotland, yes. Scary times. I am not sure scientific evidence supports a return if year 7 is the problem, but it does feel ,as ever, that the 3 tier system is overlooked. The fact that upper school year groups are often 400 isn't factored in to any plans of quarter year groups either!

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DGRossetti · 29/05/2020 16:05

Defections to other parties could see Johnson's majority shrink.

I doubt that would happen.

Much more likely is a labyrinthine cats-cradle of trying to keep all MPs onside simultaneously and suffering a slow growth of a rump that simply won't do as told. Exacerbated by the (needlessly) distressed industries of Brexit. We'll see fiscal whack-a-mole, as bung after bung is needed here, there and everywhere.

Singasonga · 29/05/2020 16:06

What really happened to it, was it should have started in 1990.

I disagree. Some of the really early movers I worked with in the early 2000s were already stuck with inflexible systems they'd bought in the 90s, so starting early wasn't necessarily a sign they'd do a decent job of it.

It wasn't how early tech transformation started, it was just how. 2010 was around the time when a significant chunk of public and private sector orgs started really realising that "digital" didn't just mean having an external supplier do a big website project, and then loads of apps, while carrying on as normal with the rest of their operations running much as they had for the previous 15 years.

So: as I said, there were people who went into gov tech around 2010, and they were motivated by the idea of using technology to deliver public services to taxpayers in a usable and useful way. They got a lot done from around 2010-2015, but then quite a few of them started making enemies (too much change, etc) and the big outsourcers wanted their contracts back, so the whole initiative is now a shadow of what it once was.

Now there's a new bunch of transformational "weirdos" in fashion, and unfortunately for us unlike the last bunch who were mostly from usenet, this bunch is from 8chan and some of the weirder Reddit subs.

DGRossetti · 29/05/2020 16:17

@Singasonga

All I need to know about technological engagement is summed up by the fact that as part of my degree I worked on RFCs for email, and 36 years later companies still prefer to use the phone over it. I may as well have done sociology.

It's a little akin to working on the first jet engine, only to discover over a quarter of a century later people prefer cycling.

Somewhere, in the Columbia KERMIT archives is a piece of my code - older than most bosses now.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 29/05/2020 16:36

The cautionary tale of the ChangeyTiggers shows what happens to turncoats.

Be sure that if BJ's numbers don't improve in Y2 of his term, he will be Ted-ed.

BigChocFrenzy · 29/05/2020 16:38

I wonder if removing "shielded" status is because the most dangerous condition by far is age

Very few under 45s have died, even though most who did had significant comorbidities

iirc, the risk of death doubles with about every 7 years of age
So someone 20-45 who has e.g. T1 (3 x risk of death for their age) could be no higher than the risk of someone still working in their early 40s - 60s

Sostenueto · 29/05/2020 16:46

Professor John Edmunds an advisor for SAGE says easing of lockdown was a political decision and in his opinion infection levels still very high and Sir Patrick Vallance said country still very fragile. So scientists were not wanting lockdown eased.
Glad scientists getting it out there so as they don't get the blame. It was obvious at press conference they were not comfortable with lockdown being eased.

Sostenueto · 29/05/2020 16:47

Thanks Red for link💐

Singasonga · 29/05/2020 16:54

Professor John Edmunds an advisor for SAGE says easing of lockdown was a political decision and in his opinion infection levels still very high and Sir Patrick Vallance said country still very fragile. So scientists were not wanting lockdown eased.

Yep. Time to start building up your reserves again for the next lockdown. (And that's not even looking ahead to the now almost inevitable supply-chain shock in December.)

Singasonga · 29/05/2020 16:56

All I need to know about technological engagement is summed up by the fact that as part of my degree I worked on RFCs for email, and 36 years later companies still prefer to use the phone over it. I may as well have done sociology.

On the upside, this indicates that the latest round of Cummings' "weirdos" are potentially no more likely to cause real change than anyone else.

ICouldHaveBeenAContender · 29/05/2020 16:58

DGR oh yes, I recall a recent murder case where the guilty party's alibi was blown apart thanks to the records of an inbuilt car tracker. The level of detail was quite an eye-opener.

DGRossetti · 29/05/2020 16:59

Yep. Time to start building up your reserves again for the next lockdown.

At least we know what we need ...

HoneysuckIejasmine · 29/05/2020 17:02

Pmk again because my TIO has disappeared. Hmm

LouiseCollins28 · 29/05/2020 17:08

Meet “Flexi-lough” daughter/son of Furlough 😊

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 29/05/2020 17:21

Dishi Rishi, who may be deliberately letting his grey show to appear statesmanly. has made it very clear: We are guided by the calendar, and will be back to normal by Nov 1 when we can all go Christmas shopping.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 29/05/2020 17:26

Ye tak the high lough and I'll tak the low lough, and I'll be out of furlough afore ye...

LouiseCollins28 · 29/05/2020 17:38

Mine to Jasmine, something odd going on for sure.

OldLace · 29/05/2020 17:40

I have just found out that the person who made my dd's 11th Birthday cake, also baked the Wedding cake for one Dominic & Mary Cummings.

OldLace · 29/05/2020 17:42

I do think that a letter sent to my MP on Tuesday should have had a response by now. Grrr.

DGRossetti · 29/05/2020 17:44

@OldLace

I do think that a letter sent to my MP on Tuesday should have had a response by now. Grrr.
Personally I'd rather have a measured response than a hurried platitude.

For all the scorn my MP attracted and with the obvious understanding it was a mass reply, I thought it was quite a good response.

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