Westministenders: No Australia Don't Have A Deal

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Since Friday, far from letting things calm down, Johnson has doubled down stating that if we can't have a Canada Deal (which the EU says wouldn't be equal because we are much closer than Canada geographically) we will go for an Australia Deal.

This is the latest rehash of a managed no deal package up as something else which the EU have already repeatedly said no to.

So we are on track for no deal.

At the same time Johnson has got very excited about American food and how its great. Almost as if he wants no deal wit the EU to force a shitty bad deal with the us through.

Johnson and his chronies have also been trying to undermine journalistic transparency by blocking access to the lobby to some media outlets in a move that makes us look like a tinpot dictatorship. Fortunately there was a mass walk out of journalists but it remains to be seen how long that can be maintained.

Far from being a clean slate to move forward from its already proving that nothing has changed and old divisions are as deep as ever, if not worse...

Not the youngest Chancellor of the Exchequer.

That was the towering statesman Gideon George Osborne, the one who invented the Northern Powerhouse then moved it to London.

Peregrina
They sold out a few years ago - the solicitors bragged about it online

A pity.

Not sure I want the beeb to "predict" ?
Happier if they simply report and interpret, preferably naming sources.

The whole 'breaking news' thing also rushes them into less fact-checked stories, I'd like them to get back to only reporting fact - even if they are a few hours "behind". We should be able to rely on news reports, now we end up having to wait a day or so whilst the real story emerges.

Not sure I want the beeb to "predict" ?

Better than "indoctrinate", surely ?

I got annoyed with Ian Watson this morning on BBC Breakfast saying, without qualification, that Rishi Sunak is suitably experienced for the role of Chancellor as he had been an investment banker.

Investment bankers are gamblers with other people's money and are a large part of the reason for the financial crisis in 2008, the effects of which the UK is still feeling . And it was the UK who blocked attempts in the EU to tighten up control (and bankers' bonuses) to try to mitigate the likelihood of it happening again.

BJ in cabinet making the "Forty New Hospitals" lie into a playground chant, in best Goebbels 'Big Lie' tradition.

Prog on BBC last night showed the 'new' hospital in Liverpool that has already been built but yet to be fitted out since Carilliion collapsed and is now being reinforced where it's already falling down and demolished where it breaches post-grenfell rules.

Expected to be open five years late and £1bn over budget.

@prettybird
Not all investment bankers are gamblers...... you are really just referring to traders which is a small part of that world.
And the good ones base there "gambles" on solid research and patterns.
However at his age - he wouldn't be a very experienced one , and maybe not even a very successful one. Pre-2008 they hired anyone .....: now it's much much harder to get a job in banking - private school and oxford is not enough.

Prog on BBC last night showed the 'new' hospital in Liverpool that has already been built but yet to be fitted out since Carilliion collapsed and is now being reinforced where it's already falling down and demolished where it breaches post-grenfell rules.

Anyone remember the Yes Minister episode about the empty hospital ? (Which was also the most efficient in the NHS )

Anyone remember the Yes Minister episode about the empty hospital ? (Which was also the most efficient in the NHS grin)

Yes! Although my favourite is still the one where Sir Humphrey has his key taken away..

I can still recall the episode (having the books helped).

There was a parallel plot about Britain having to accept a few hundred refugees from somewhere, with nowhere to put them as there was a housing crisis, ( plus ca change and all that). Hacker suddenly saw the symmetry in an empty 1,000 bed hospital and needing to house 1,000 refugees and immediately earns Humphreys ire ...

But Minister, those beds are for sick Britons, not healthy foreigners

revealing a persistent undertone of racism in British society going back over 2 generations

mrslaughan - you are of course correct . I was just annoyed at the uncritical approach to his "credentials"

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@prettybird
About the crudentials - it really annoys me too. With husband been involved in the industry for the best part of 25 years - it has changed hugely. - he has never been a trader, so not a gambler😉. It is astonishing the changes in the last 12-13 years.
During the Tory leadership campaign the fact that the Saj was hailed as this wizard because he worked at Goldman Sachs...... well I suspect there is a reason he left and went into politics and I doubt it was a belief in needing to give back....

www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/14/national/wakayama-positive-coronavirus/#.XkaK1mSnyyU

Elsewhere, Wakayama Prefecture officials made public Friday morning that a man in his 70s was confirmed to have the coronavirus and is in serious condition. He was first admitted to the town of Yuasa’s Saiseikai Arida Hospital, where a doctor in his 50s was confirmed to be infected with the virus on Thursday.

It was not clear whether the man in his 70s, who first showed symptoms on Feb. 1 and checked into the hospital on Feb. 6, had gone overseas before getting sick. He has since been transferred to a different hospital.

Wakayama Gov. Yoshinobu Nisaka rejected the possibility that he got infected in the hospital, noting that the man never had close contact with the doctor, and that the doctor was not working there when the man was hospitalized. Nisaka said he likely picked up the virus before visiting the hospital.

Nothing to worry about here... No....

Ffs wrong thread.

I don't mind the fact that LauraK didn't predict the Saj going, or report in advance the problems he was having with Cummings

I do mind that she said his going was a surprise - it shouldn't have been to anyone paying attention

It's my cynical view, that in the uk in particular, that the 2nd career of choice for failed bankers with a certain education, is that if Tory politician.....

@red - this is the only thread I follow on Mumsnet- and I appreciated the update......

Well, if the spread of the Corona virus is worse than expected and UK deaths get into the hundreds,
then I'm expecting that to be one of the excuses for poor economic figures

Also, depending on how much the Chinese economy is damaged with lockdowns & curfews etc,
we could see a global recession, which would obviously affect exports from the UK, EU and everywhere else

(a global recession has been predicted by some analysts anyway for the last year)

The nhs won't be able to cope with Coronavirus - early collapse? How would the tories spin that?

We're meant to be going to NZ for Easter - but are holding off booking. Normally we would fly via Asia, but won't be doing that now. Through USA, or better to stay put?

Not really sure.....

DGR. That tweeter deserves my first ever

The MWC has already been cancelled, presumably causing a lot of financial pain for Barceloneans, where it was based.

Be curious if 30 years of working on delivering remote working to very little enthusiasm is suddenly vindicated by the hysteria over Covid19 ...

DGR. That tweeter deserves my first ever

In the interests of balance, the FB thread it was posted in had a few valid points in the other direction (it was a busy day at the airport to start with, etc). But I gave up giving a shit about balance a long time ago. And moreover my point in posting was not to suggest it was necessarily factually precise or correct. It was to show that as predicted people who voted for Brexit are going to start whinging. So we'd better get used to it. That's the same "we" that are supposed to be "pulling together", by the way.