For those of us quietly sad about leaving the EU.

[DioneTheDiabolist]

I'm not making a song and dance about it. I'm not falling out with anyone over it. I dont want to debate it. I'm just sad about it.

And that's ok.

Anyone else with me?

We can't all just leave the UK. I am absolutely sick and tired of that argument.

Well it isn't really an argument it is just another soundbite to avoid actually engaging.

Democracy means we can change it again,

so get over the fact that some people will continue to campaign

But the UK left last night at 11pm. So start packing if you don’t like democracy.

Oh you nasty piece of work. Well it’s blatantly obvious why you voted leave now isn’t it. Grim.

I just can't grasp why people can't understand that citizenship isn't something you can just exchange willynilly if it doesn't suit you. It isn't a matching handbag

The UK passport is one of the most accepted in the World and accepted in 160+ countries in the world.

he said remainers were thick as they don’t understand it’s not about logic, it’s about that feeling of sovereignty and taking back control.

Well he's right that we don't understand that it's not about tangible benefits, and that it's just about feels. So perhaps we are thick, as leavers have been telling us this for 3.5 years and we're still looking for them to tell us what the tangible benefits are. At the end of the day it doesn't come down to anything tangible. It's simply a sense of patriotism. I've lost my freedom of movement because more people preferred 🇬🇧 to 🇪🇺 and were persuaded it made a difference.

I'm not offended by what MysteryTripAgain said, Songsofexperience because it's a worn-out answer trotted out by many Leavers when we dare to question the fact we've become a nation that is happy to our backs on the very people who have helped build our economy for the past decades – the nurses, doctors, support staff, teachers and hospitality workers who have come here from the EU and who now feel like they no longer matter.

I'm sad. I'm sad that we look as if we're sticking two fingers up to our neighbours in Europe. I'm sad that so many racists and bigots have seen Brexit as an excuse to air their prejudices. And I'm sad that it's driven a wedge in between me and people I love. I've tried hard not to let it but when they come out with "it won't change anything" I can't help but think "then what was the point of it all?!".

It's shit. I wish I could run away to France.

Loser consent = Democracy

You clearly don't understand what that means.
Losers consent does not mean the end of opposition.
Democracy is defined by how it deals with dissent.

@MysteryTripAgain and...

You sound increasingly idiotic.

Democracy means we can change it again

Can’t see any political party suggesting a rejoin. Look what happened to labour and LibDems in the last election when they tried to ignore the 2016 referendum. They both got thrashed.

I'm gutted. Mainly for my children who were born EU citizens and now have that stripped from them. Losing membership means fewer opportunities for them studying and working in EU. I'm certain the UK will be damaged economically too and I don't wish any kind of recession on them either. It's simply the worst decision ever made by a PM to hold a referendum and the to carry it through regardless of common sense. The increase in racism and xenophobia is frightening

@MysteryTripAgain there is no arguing with idiots and stupidity, a point which you are demonstrating perfectly.

For that, I thank you.

It wasn’t fucking democratic- it was supposed to be an advisory referendum. Nobody actually knew what they were voting for, other than in or out. There always should have been another referendum after a plan had been formed.

MysteryTripAgain Let's see if you're still singing that tune after December 31, when the stark reality of Brexit will be much clearer.

16 million remainers should have a voice in how brexit shapes up. That's true democracy. Instead, they're mocked by people like you and ignored by the government.
There should be a consensus. Not talking about rejoin here! Talking about having a voice in what direction the country takes.

It's shit. I wish I could run away to France

What’s stopping you?

MysteryTripAgain Let's see if you're still singing that tune after December 31, when the stark reality of Brexit will be much clearer

Won’t affect me as I don’t live and work in the UK.

You can't argue with stupid.

Mind you whilst they are here ranting, at least they aren't out on the streets ranting.

I’m not interested in wasting my time engaging with Leavers on this thread and would suggest nobody else bothers either; there are plenty of fight club threads for that. This is a place for Remainers to share solidarity and sympathy, let’s keep the atmosphere kind shall we.

You can't argue with stupid

Another I know better statement.

Remainers constant use of the word stupid is what strengthened leave supporters resolve. Hence Boris stormed the election as the only party to promise to deliver the 2016 referendum result.

Please can you explain what you are actually sad about

So many things.

I'm sad because my identity as an EU citizen has been taken away from me without my consent, along with my freedom of movement.

I'm sad because I've already lost my job because of Brexit, and I think there is a whole lot more economic misery to come.

I'm sad because my country has chosen to walk away from the ideal of international cooperation and community that the EU represents, in order to align ourselves with what? Trump's America?

I'm sad because I know so many people who have made their homes here who now feel desperately unwelcome in this country. And because the referendum appears to have legitimised racism in a way that has deeply affected people who are dear to me.

I'm sad because the rights and protections that EU law gave us may now be torn up by an unscrupulous Tory government.

I'm sad because I did not want to see the break-up of the United Kingdom. I'm fearful of a return to violence in Northern Ireland and sad that Scotland will eventually decide to go its own way.

And I'm sad because I feel that I no longer belong in the UK myself. Watching the flag-wavers celebrating yesterday - celebrating what I still don't know - I felt a deep sense of alienation. I have no connection to these people, and nothing in common with them. I don't feel at home any more in my own country, and yet my right to go elsewhere has been taken from me.

So yes, I'm sad.

MysteryTripAgain

Why do you care, then?

AlexaShutUp Great post, I agree with every word.

And I'm so sorry you've lost your job.

I'm confused by being told to be quiet and accept the outcome because it's democracy. It's bizarre really. Was NF quietly acceptive of being inside the EU? Did the ERG sit on the sidelines accepting 'democracy'?

Actually, I think we should use JRM as our role model (those of us who are sad today) and start to copy his tireless 30+ year campaign to leave the EU with one of our own to rejoin. However small those efforts may be given most of us don't have his deep pockets or connections.