Westminstenders: Penny dropping time

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Johnson already seems to be hinting at protections for workers rights and the environment that he promised are to be dropped.

Along with enshrining Brexit in law to the end of Dec 2020 thus creating another Brexit no deal date. This time without any safety net in parliament.

"won't Johnson be more liberal than he suggested" they cry

About that...

I’m wondering who the PM actually is - it’s beginning to look as if Johnson’s the useful idiot.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dominic-cummings-house-of-lords-ministers-nicky-morgan-boris-johnson-a9250031.html

PLP Meeting, and the word is what now passes for the many is less than impressed with the few.

And I thought this was the French Brexit Song:

In the style of the Trump threads on AIBU, a Boris watch thread has been started

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3771370-Boris-Watch-Thread-1?watched=1

thank you choma I've joined you over there

Mary Creagh on channel four news just now, absolutely incandescent with rage at Jeremy Corbyn & PLP

👍🏼 Have joined you as well Choma

C4 News: Theresa May personally contacted all her defeated MPs and said sorry within 24 hours.

Corbyn has yet to contact any defeated Labour candidates.

Presumably unlike Hamas, they are no longer his friends.

Pmk

Just about people being ‘stupid’ for voting for change by voting for the same lot that have been in power for a decade - that’s not how it was sold.

A vote for the Tories was a vote for a majority government - a change from the shambles of the last few years (‘dither and delay’ ‘blocking Brexit’), and a vote for Corbyn was a vote for a hung parliament and more of the same old shit that everyone has got really tired of (is there anyone who isn’t fed up of meaningful votes?).

This was all laid out clearly and patriotically in the YouTube front page promoted video that the Tories must have paid an absolute fortune for the day before the election. The stirring music and imagery was incredibly similar to the Vote Leave adverts from the referendum campaign. Cummings knows his stuff.

But it’s not stupid to want a change from all the hung parliament messing around.

THe best News Channel there ever was
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thick_of_It
summarised here

PMK
I'm still feeling rather 'down' - the Election, Trump, bloody Welby... :(
But, I won a large Xmas hamper today in a charity shop raffle which will help me give the kids a few treats over Christmas so that's something :)

You know, I'm sitting here thinking about how much the last few years in the Labour Party has been very much like the worst aspects of my home life parenting teens.

I love my children. I really do. But on a bad day ...

... being absolutely patronised
... being dismissed as irrelevant
... sometimes meeting outright hostility
... being told things, earnestly, that I already know - and smiling along grimly because, we'll, must indulge the kids and, at least they're speaking to me
... being told black is white but going along with it because you have to pick your battles
... being asked to give lifts here there and everywhere, often immediately after the above.

I wonder if it's a common feeling amongst female Labour members my age?

I've missed what Welby did?

Oh, and being told, repeatedly, that people my age are a problem; being told all the ways people my age are really traitors to the young, in great detail - usually whilst making dinner, buying clothes for said teen, finding missing objects, and the ever-present lift thing.*

*'And people your age all have cars and they're destroying the planet. There's going to be no planet for us. You're killing it. OK, there's the station, can you stop here, please?'

Great idea choma to have a watch thread series 🛰 on the British Trump, since we have one on the US original

Yes, brilliant, choma.

"Corbyn has yet to contact any defeated Labour candidates."

Corbyn's mum & dad never taught him manners, or how to be gracious and he never learned as an adult

So thecat you can see why it matters that you are investing time in civilising your own teens
and that you taught them please & thank you pre-teen

Oh mustress I agree , the Call and Response thing is so irritating and has become his New Thing. If you repeat lies and half truths and get others to say them too , does it become less untrue?

you're getting a lot of support choma. and cat god I know where you're coming from re the teens!!

BigChoc To be absolutely fair, neither of my children have ever been as rude as my imaginary car conversation. 😁 it's a sort of extreme synthesis - but woefully close to experiences I've had at various LP events. ☹️

Goodness knows what's going on with Labour and the PLP/Corbyn situation.
It sounds utterly dire.

Choma I've signed for your new thread - followed the Trump one for ages (until I became over invested in the Westministenders) and have learned so much from both! Thank you.

Hi everyone - I really don't mean to intrude (it's still early days) but maybe the accepted idea that social media plays such a big part in how people vote is overstated; yes it has proven to be a great resource for sharing info, true, false, creative, etc - but this is usually between people that share the same ideas.

You could say the same for newspapers too - I know I avoid them during 'heightened moments'.

Anyway - you've all put so much effort into trying to stop Brexit - what do you all plan to do next? Seems a lot here are now interested in the Labour Party and who their next Leader should be.

As well as many foretellings of the Ides of BJ and all the woes that all the people that live in the UK will now be subjected to. What do you plan to do now - leave, stay, make your home a fortress, join a political party, stand for election....or?

C4 News: Theresa May personally contacted all her defeated MPs and said sorry within 24 hours. Corbyn has yet to contact any defeated Labour candidates.Presumably unlike Hamas, they are no longer his friends.
He's a self absorbed fool

Today was my last work day of 2019
How about everyone else ?

Then I only have 3 weeks in January, so 14-15 days, until I retire
< 😀 skips off happily >

Um, officially my last day is 31 January, so I'll actually be celebrating then at my etirement bash !

hate that's a very good question. TBH I have absolutely no idea, apart from continue to rage from the sidelines, perhaps on social media, perhaps by contacting my (useless) MP. I guess many of us will just put our own families first and foremost... and having spent the better part of a year battling with the NHS treatment of my DM during the 5 months she spent dying on their watch, I will look at getting involved in some kind of voluntary work in that area if I can afford the time/potential loss of income.