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What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

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Pumperthepumper · 15/12/2019 17:42

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please Flowers

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Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 18:41

No, but I've given you the report title, I'm sure you're capable of some simple googling. It's annual, so not hard to miss I'm sure.

What are you hoping to discover from it, Pumperthepumper? Did you think the figure was lower then?

MIdgebabe · 23/12/2019 18:50

It's like this. People pay taxes that go to a central authority. People get to vote for that central authority, and many people base their votes on how much money the central authority wants to raise and what it plans to spend it on. Richer people tend to pay more than poor people. That central authority then uses that money for the greater good. quite often rich people get less back than poor people. Overall, everyone benefits.

When the central authority is the parish council, that Grand
When the central authority is the local council, that's grand
When the central authority is the country's government, that's grand
When the central authority is the EU, that's theft of our money

Parker231 · 23/12/2019 18:55

Why is it theft of our money when the UK has benefited by being an EU member particularly as we enjoyed a significant rebate. What have the EU done which has had a negative impact on the UK?

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Pumperthepumper · 23/12/2019 18:56

Ah, hang on, I’ve misread this. I thought the argument was that the bus lies were dead in the water but you’re saying that a fair percentage still believe in it?

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MIdgebabe · 23/12/2019 18:58

Why is it theft?

I don't know. I have learnt it by rote. I keep trying to follow the logic but keep falling over and no one will explain it simply to me.

MIdgebabe · 23/12/2019 19:00

What has the Eu done that has had a negative impact on us?

Well the fishing policy was pretty rubbish. Perhaps if our MEPs had bothered to turn up and do some work it would have been better?

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 23/12/2019 19:18

Is this the link?
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/814387/190618_HMT_2018_Annual_Statement_on_European_Finances_print.pdf

I’m looking at p12. Gross contribution was £17,445 million for 2018. Net (minus rebate and public sector receipts) was £8,925 million. There are also some private sector receipts on a smaller scale.

17445/52 = £334 million
8925/52 = £172 million

If I have that wrong please provide evidence and show your working.

BatleyTownswomensGuild · 23/12/2019 19:22

Not having to listen to ERG wankers on the tv/radio every five minutes. Mark Francois can royally fuck off...

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Pumperthepumper · 23/12/2019 21:21

Devereux1 still not seeing it - what page is it on?

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Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 21:28

Pumperthepumper

You're not seeing it is your problem, not mine.
You're rather rude with your insistence I find copies of documents for you, don't you think? Which page now? For goodness sake!

CherryPavlova · 23/12/2019 21:30

Devereux1 I was referring to the huge red bus that toured the country saying the NHS was going to be £350 million better off.
I can’t see your figures either?

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Pumperthepumper · 23/12/2019 21:31

Ah Devereux1 this isn’t going to be another one of your ‘I could tell you’ things is it? You’re not making yet another statement you can’t back up surely?

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Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 21:44

Pumperthepumper
Your failure to read a document does not equate to the world hiding it from you. You want to see the document I referred to? You find it then. it's not up to me to spend my time hunting out a document for you.

If you want to use your failure to find it as some kind of paranoid excuse to rant at me, go ahead, but you are going to look very, very silly.

Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 21:44

CherryPavlova
Devereux1 I was referring to the huge red bus that toured the country saying the NHS was going to be £350 million better off.

Yes, I know you were. Hmm

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Pumperthepumper · 23/12/2019 21:50

Devereux1 I found the document. The stats you quoted aren’t in it.

I know these threads must be hard for you because you can’t contribute more than insults and lies, but please stop. You’re making yourself look ridiculous, and I’ve already defended you once. I’m not sure how many more times you’re going to come on here and pretend you understand any of what you voted for, but it’s getting old now.

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Pumperthepumper · 23/12/2019 21:52

Thanks Parker231

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Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 21:54

Pumperthepumper
You're a strange one. You poke and attack, you demand, and then you throw some weirdo tantrum when people don't jump to your demands.

There, yes, you do look rather silly don't you, given that the document was there all along. "The stats you quoted aren't in it", amazing since I didn't quote any stats, I stated that an amount was greater and that that amount would be found in the document.

Which, I have just seen, the figure I was referring to is there. Look for it Pumperthepumper. Do your own work and stop dictating to others. Maybe less pumping and more pulling, eh?

Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 21:57

ListeningQuietly
Deveraux
Which paragraph number has the £350m ?

I don't know. Why are you asking me that question?

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Pumperthepumper · 23/12/2019 21:59

It’s not there Devereux1. I’m really starting to pity you. If you need help understanding what you voted for, please don’t hesitate to ask.

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Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 22:01

Pumperthepumper Oh dear, you can't find the figures? Leave the discussion to people who can read documents and can comprehend what is being discussed, eh?

Devereux1 · 23/12/2019 22:03

WiseUpJanetWeiss - Yes, that's the series of documents.

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Pumperthepumper · 23/12/2019 22:06

So what’s your point based on these figures Devereux1? What do these figures mean to you in relation to Brexit?

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MIdgebabe · 23/12/2019 22:07

So moving on from where the figure might come from, the fact remains that once we leave the Eu there won't be an extra 350 a week for the nhs ? Since they promised no one would lose out, its net not gross that matters , so at least half that money goes to where the Eu were sending it?