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The Brexit Arms - Counting Down the Days...

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SingingLily · 27/11/2019 09:06

Welcome to the Brexit Arms!

We are temporarily under new management but worry not, the ship is still steady as we sail on to 12 December. A quick recap of the events of the last week or two:

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Anyone of any political persuasion who is prepared to join in, eschew goadery, and enjoy a laugh, welcome. First drinks are on the house.

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EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 14:53

Good job his arms are long enough to reach for the exit tbf.

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 14:53

Oh no Singing!!!

SingingLily · 29/11/2019 14:54

Five casualties. Borough Market area again.

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EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 14:55

Shit. I hope no one is too badly hurt... how awful 😔

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 14:56

Some rumours about a potential IED. 😔

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:00

Fuck me. I’ve just accidentally seen a video on twitter that I wish I hadn’t. Looks like the police shit the suspect! 😩

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:00

Shot! Shot! So sorry, bastard auto correct.

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:02

Some very brave members of the public there too, by the looks of things.... wow. Shocking incident.

SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:05

Police confirm they were called to a stabbing on London Bridge - some sort of fight between a group of men - and they have detained one man. Armed police moved in. Armed response was apparently used as he continued to struggle. Five casualties - no further details. Lots of passersby fleeing in terror. Not thought to be terrorist-related but still pretty frightening for them.

More police. More stop-and-search. Tougher sentences for knife crime. More prison spaces, rapido. A small number of people are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime in this country.

I say this as someone who is ex-police, ex-prisons.

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EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:06

Goodness me, aren’t our first responders brave and incredible. Hats off to them.

XingMing · 29/11/2019 15:08

No political party or individual politician is perfect or beyond reproach but guess what, nor are most people.

I don't like Boris and wouldn't have voted for him to lead his party, but his membership did just that. He is crass, a philanderer, and not half as funny as he thinks he is, but he has a reputation for surrounding himself with bright people, giving them a task and letting them do it, which makes him a whole lot better manager than those who micro-manage (who usually get swamped by the detail and end up unable to decide).

On the lying charge, I learnt as a writer in business that when the Chairman writes "We plan to do x" and shareholders ask about progress the following year, the reply is along the lines of, "Yes, it was the plan then but in between, y and z happened. Y was a great opportunity and has done well, and Z was a problem we needed to address urgently. X remains on our horizon and we continue to consider it a desirable medium-long term goal."

In real life, not every objective can be pursued simultaneously because there are other factors that force their way ahead of the queue or prevent progress.

I don't like Corbyn either, who is also a serial philanderer. He's not crass, but not funny and his ability to pick the right people and let them get on with it has given us D Abbott, J McDonnell et al, none of whom are very honest (tax rates) or competent (Diane's maths skills) and they are not cloaked in glory.

Reading both sets of policies, I conclude that while I don't accept either is uniformly appealing or realistic, I think the Tories have a better grasp of how the economy works.

From a CapX article about the pitfalls of renationalisation:

"The profit motive has raised billions of people out of poverty by encouraging innovation and ensuring finite resources are used productively. We live in a country where almost everyone can afford a shelter over their heads, food on the table and a phone with access to the world's information. [bits in between omitted] Downgrading the importance of profit removes the essential accountability between shareholders, whose investments are at risk, and corporate executives."

Of course there are thousands too many people living a precarious existence and finding themselves relatively strapped, and the help available inevitably has to be rationed out, ideally fairly, efficiently and compassionately. But the history of nationalised industry (losses in every year, appalling service from rail, electricity and telecoms, chosen because I know more about rail, energy and telecoms than post and steel hardly strikes me as grounds to bring it back wholesale. Governments and politicians are lousy stewards of public assets, and shareholders hold executives' feet to the fire more effectively, because everyone who is in a pension fund is sharing the risk. And that is most people in work.

Apologies if that was mangled.

XingMing · 29/11/2019 15:10

Another Brew please! I'm gasping.

SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:11

BrewXing.

In fact, BrewBrewBrewBrewBrewBrew all round.

What is that jackknifed lorry about?

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SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:13

Come on, Priti. Get COBRA open.

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EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:18

Jackknifed Lorry?

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:20

Good post Xing, I have read it alongside the developing news in London.

SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:20

Jackknifed white lorry across London Bridge. Surrounded by police including at least one armed response. Counter-terrorism now on scene so it might be terrorist-related after all.

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SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:22

Dear God, one dead - not the attacker.

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EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:22

Anyone know what building is on that corner of london bridge? I have seen a vid of at least one person being stretchered out.

SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:23

Is it the one with the rounded facade, Epic? That's Borough Market.

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SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:26

Police confirm it is a terrorist incident.

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EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:29

No, I don’t think so, not sure though, it looked palladian style, had columns.

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:30

“Police confirm it is a terrorist incident.”

In which case, those people were especially brave in tackling the attacker.

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 29/11/2019 15:32

This building, I have cropped out the stretcher part for obvious reasons. Sorry it’s not a very clear angle of the building.

The Brexit Arms - Counting Down the Days...
SingingLily · 29/11/2019 15:33

Incredibly brave, Epic. Situation seems to be under control although they are still evacuating the area. The problem is, there will be high alert everywhere now in case this incident was a signal to others.

I see the Palladian style building now but don't know, sorry.

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