Brexit Arms

[DustyDiamond]

Welcome to the Brexit Arms!!

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The girl, df was from the there and said he'd never vote tory.

All my relatives still there remain staunchly Labour.

I'm ever grateful that whilst he certainly spoke about Labour Party, his beliefs, above all else he drummed it into me to be freedom thinker and do my research, question everything and never let alone tell me what to believe.

In terms of politics I don't know think of my relatives (cousins) as free thinkers but as tribal, cult like zombies...

Df was lifted out of poor wc background via grammer school and moved away.

Anyone else planning on staying up all night for the results?

There's a few of us, Girl. Perhaps we could convince one of our esteemed Landladies to set up a pop up Brexit Arms on the night? 🤞🗳😁

Born in Everton, me. 👋

Comrade Corybn in his donkey jacket and a black arm band

He could borrow Agent Boot's. AFAIK, it was only worn once.

I think I'll try and stay up.

DH’s practice is well staffed with excellent GP’s and support staff but have too many patients with complex needs. Hospitals and GP’s have been let down repeatedly by the Tories to bring the service to breaking point. It isn’t going to get fixed by Boris and his silly gang - they haven’t a clue as they refuse to listen to experts.

Another round, everyone?

Just to cheer you up, have a gander at today's Telegraph take on Nicola. Sorry about the photo quality. Did I mention I'm a complete technophobe?

DustyDiamond, EpicWaffle, where is your meme-expertise when we need it most?

Parker that's interesting, hospitals around me were not at breaking point, but broken.
The horror stories of sub standard, life threatening care was awful. One prayed they didn't get critically ill because the hospital was sooo bad.

And anyone giving birth... Forget it. Hospital doors closing to mums in labour, women left to labour alone, women nearly dying and dying due to poor care. The system was fragile and then it became swamped.
We have now got much better services but I'd still pray if I was admitted. Its not perfect. So in my area at least what your saying Parker doesn't apply.

Singing, very funny. The cartoonist are brilliant.

I've not read telegraph but used to get the times and adored the cartoonist there, Brookes?

General practice improved under labour. I did my nurse training in 2002-4 and later went into general practice. NICE came about under labour and has significantly improved outcomes and clinical practice. NSFs also improved care under labour.

Loving the Torygraph cartoonist's work these days.

Not sure Nippy has thought through what happens if she overplays her hand to present as the proxy Scottish Labour Party. That said Blair did win 46% vote share and 56 out of 72 seats in Scotland in 1997, so maybe she has.

That Telegraph cartoon illustrates how little the English (particularly on the right) understand about the movement for Scottish independence.
It isn't about going it alone. It's about no longer being part of a UK whose constituent elements are very different and divided , increasingly so since the Brexit referendum.
BJ saying a unilateral "No" to Sturgeon will, in some areas, win the SNP votes.

For many, the aim is to no longer be in a Union with England, which doesn't exclude remaining a union with more like-minded nations.

And the shift in reaction from Spain, for instance, over the past few years, shows that there is now understanding and sympathy for that aim, after witnessing the Brexit negotiations and other events.

I think Nippy might be having a mini-Jezza moment - how to keep the Leave-voting ScotsNats on board (oh yes, they exist) while playing to the Remain vote. It's a real juggling act.

Just to keep up the momentum (pun intended), here's today's purler from Guido:

"Louise Webberley, Labour’s candidate in the Leave-voting seat of Totnes, is not exactly going for the outreach approach; sharing material on Facebook saying ^“lower income, less educated voiceless people are so much easier to control".
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Wow, just wow.

I don't live in Totnes but if I did, I'd be saying, "You talkin to me, Louise? You talkin to me?"

Auld as a Scot living in Scotland I see the Indy movement, especially with its focus on EU alignment, as nothing more than anti-English bigotry tbh.

howabout - call it bigotry if you will. If that is bigotry, there's a lot of it about.

I, probably inevitably, know and meet many very pro-EU Scots, while I don't know any anti-English bigots, so am less inclined than you to think that the SNP's stance is just a smokescreen.

The fact remains that, probably because it's unpalatable to the English, English cartoons like that one totally miss the point. And if you misunderstand your opponent that badly, it's hard to effectively counter them.

In my direct family of Scots living in Scotland, BJ's election as PM shifted several people towards the SNP, because they felt that they could no longer countenance being in a union with people who were comfortable with voting someone like that in. They are not anti-English, they just feel their values are now radically different to those of a majority of English people.

That's going to make her friends Singing! We yokels can get a little touchy, even indignant with the disdain served up by the (self-appointed) Metropolitan Elite. We feel we're being sneered at. Kipling (poet, not cake-maker) wrote a verse about how far to push.... I'll try to locate it.

"Louise Webberley, Labour’s candidate in the Leave-voting seat of Totnes, is not exactly going for the outreach approach; sharing material on Facebook saying “lower income, less educated voiceless people are so much easier to control".

Wow, just wow.

Oh, and I thought you guys liked your memes (and this one has been doing the rounds in various forms for years - started off in the states and has been used to highlight poverty in Africa):

Lower income, less educated voiceless people are so much easier to control. Poverty is not by accident, it’s by design.

Remind me, what did that UN report on poverty in the UK find?

So that's where she lifted the phrase from. Thank you for that.

The Landlady is temporarily engaged elsewhere but please help yourself to a drink.

Landlady is in mourning for our fallen comrade Epic 😢

(Also dicking around doing bollocks so busier than normal 🙄😂)

I'm with you all in spirit, constantly, as ever

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Welcome back, Dusty!

The place is spick and span. Howabout did the dishes and left the kitchen sparkling (after she'd cleaned up her DD's waffle making efforts). I've been sweeping out the cellars and trying to mop the vaults.

This pub Landlady job is harder than it looks!

Back to my own side of the bar with a builders brew. 😅

Solidarity ✊🌹

The whole NHS set-up needs a proper review

This is coming up a lot in various posts of all persuasions. Has everyone seen the 10 Year Plan? Now I accept it is only a "plan", however it was drafted cross party, with input from patient groups, GP's, Doctors, Charities, etc etc etc..... It takes a bit of reading, but from what I hear, is widely welcomed. Just type in "NHS 10 year plan" and have a (long) read.

Oh, and I thought you guys liked your memes

Yeh we do!!!!!

In fact, here's one I made just now!

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/general-election-nicola-sturgeon-talks-of-inclusion-but-demonises-a-million-scots-brian-wilson-1-5042288/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Exactly this.

Waffles were worth it Nigella wins out over newcomer Tom W as it was she who pointed out I could have a manual stove top waffle iron and didn't need a fancy gadget.

(Careful getting the glasses out the dishwasher. They smash very easily when hot)

She sounds utterly demented 'how'

Dangerously obsessed.

It's been one of the those Grim, hello winter poor weather conditions here, I hope everyone got through it?
Very quiet in here.
I fought it, with a dose, of Vera Lynn. I'd forgotten how melodious her voice is.

Anyway, if anyone can serve me, I'd like rather a hassley drink... Hot milk and bailey's please.

That sounds like a very soothing drink, GenuineQuestions. I'm still on builders brew. It has been chilly today, hasn't it?

A little while ago, I read a political sketch about Nicola Sturgeon's single-minded and unwavering response to any question. It imagined any interview with her would go something like this:

Journalist: "So, Ms Sturgeon, how would you tackle Scotland's current annual deficit of £9.4 billion?"

NS: "IndyRef2".

Journalist: "What about NHS Scotland's terrible record of on waiting time targets? What's your plan to improve that?"

NS: "IndyRef2".

Journalist: "Let me try another tack. Police Scotland say they are seriously underfunded and crime rates are soaring. How are you going to address those very serious concerns?"

NS: "IndyRef2".

Journalist 🙄: "Ms Sturgeon, in 2014, the people of Scotland voted No to independence by 55.3% to 44.7%. You said it was a "once in a lifetime opportunity", yet it's only five years ago. What would you say to those - no doubt - exasperated voters who took you at your word?"

NS: "IndyRef2".

It's a variation of "Computer Says No".

Still chuckling at Dusty's meme. It's the expressions on their faces. 😂🤣😂🤣