Westministenders: Slow News Fake News

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Things have been slow whilst we are in proroguation, ahead of next weeks Queen's Speech and the EU summit.

We've been in full spin mode, from the likes of the far right and an unnamed source at No.10.

People seem to be waking up to the reality that its highly unlikely we will get a deal now, unless something significant. And No.10 has worked out the NI problem. FINALLY.

Anyway, if you have a little time this week and you are interested in the history of where technology change and fake news meet and how where we are now is merely things repeating themselves, Ian Hislop's Fake News: A True History, is essential viewing.
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00095hv/ian-hislops-fake-news-a-true-history

I really feel strongly this is stuff that should be being taught in schools somehow as its what protects us from extremism.

Just looked at Chris Grey's publications list: those are amazing!

I've always been interested in knowledge-flow and how organisation in institutions and companies contributes to scientific advances and to effectiveness of daily working. With a goodly side-interest in how these interact with gender and race politics, plus another side interest in Bletchley Park.

It's like he wrote it all for me! If I had enough brain cells left to read, I'd be devouring his work like chocolates!

Sorry, as you were.

The problem with the Opposition forcing a Revoke vs any WA PV is that Farage - and most of the Tory party membership - would be calling on their supporters to abstain.
We could easily get below 50% turnout

If Revoke wins, then the Tories would probably go into a GE promising to Invoke again & leave with No Deal - which they could literally do the 1st day the new HoC returns

Only the WA prevents No Deal, because it is a legally binding international treaty
Revoke does not end this Brexshit

As hard as it sounds, no deal would be an eye opener. It would show that remain was always right.

No it wouldn't. In 100 years time, you'd have people not yet born who'd insist that it could have all gone well if it hadn't been for .

One of the reasons post war Germany was so quick to denazify, was the fact that they were beaten into an unconditional surrender and knew it. It was one of the strategic aims of the allies. Nothing less would have been considered or accepted - even if it cost more lives than a partial conditional surrender. It became imperative to remove all shadow of a doubt that the German loss was inevitable, total, and entirely their fault. Like ensuring there are no embers when you extinguish a fire.

The problem with the Opposition forcing a Revoke vs any WA PV is that Farage - and most of the Tory party membership - would be calling on their supporters to abstain. We could easily get below 50% turnout

I don't see that as a problem. You can hardly enforce democracy by avoiding it.

The problem with the Opposition forcing a Revoke vs any WA PV is that Farage - and most of the Tory party membership - would be calling on their supporters to abstain. We could easily get below 50% turnout

• oh, and don't get me started on that moment when Theresa May said that it was more important to pander to someone who only voted once - in that dratted referendum - than it was to take into account the many millions of people who religiously vote in GEs, local elections, and wherever else they can. It may have slipped into the water without fanfare, but it is most certainly not forgotten in the (admittedly tiny) DGR noggin.

I don't often succumb to throwing things at the TV, but that's possibly the closest I have come. That and being told that I voted for Brexit, because I voted Labour.

I expect that Barnier was instructed by the EU Commission to give the green light for the tunnel if there was any chance of an agreement,
not necessarily a good chance

Varadkar would have lobbied hard for this last chance

So, don't get too optimistic that there will be any agreement for the HoC to consider.

It's all v fragile

Sterling has perked up for the weekend, so I guess it's job done.

Thread by @nicktolhurst on twitter:

+BREAKING+

Multiple media orgs are compiling evidence for publication that Russian financing of Boris Johnson is greater than previously estimated.

& that Alexander Temerko was more heavily involved in the plot to oust Theresa May than previously documented.

While it is already publicly documented that Temerko has financed Conservative party to the tune of millions over the past decade - what is less known is the input he’s had within Johnson’s close circle & the “additional financing” he’s arranged to support Johnson.

I’ve now seen documents that some of the reasoning behind the UK intelligence agencies decision to not share information with Johnson while he was Foreign Minister are due not just to Johnson’s “chaotic private life” but also to his links to Temerko & associates.

One of the ways this financing of Boris Johnson has been hidden is by hiding the money through support for Johnson associates such as former MP James Wharton through Temerko companies.

Wharton you may recall put forward the first bill calling for an EU referendum.

What greatly concerned security services is Temerko didn’t only finance the party & Johnson but used his private resources/accom as part of Johnson plot to oust May.

Implications that an oligarch with Russian military ties was as part of a plot to oust an elected British PM.

UK intel also concerned that Temerko has publicly (in UK) prior to his gaining British citizenship presented himself as being a Putin neutral/opponent - in fact Temerko now revealed to have much closer ties to Kremlin & Russian military than previously suggested.

But here’s where it gets even more worrying:

Theresa May in 2017 became increasingly worried about Russian interference in UK politics/elections & condemn outright Russia from November 2017 onwards - in public.

Why is the date important?

In the very same month that May, informed by UK intelligence of increased Russian interference, announced a new harder line against Russia the Foreign Secretary - one Boris Johnson - came out with a 100% contradiction of May/UK security services.

It is at this point...

At this point 3 things happened:

1. May further curtailed Johnson’s access to classified information
2. Temerko steppes up involvement in plan with Johnson to oust May
3. RT started favourably reporting Johnson’s comment (incl the now famous “not a sausage” comments)

This date also important as it marks the start of Johnson’s growing relationship with Bannon. Up until 2017 Johnson has atleast played at “one nation” but with Brexit - from 2017 this was ditched & he started to essentially to follow Trumpist playbook.

Problem with this thread is Ive enough for 200 tweets. But I’ll leave with this.

90% of above is publicly verifiable. Now while Boris was smoking cigars at Alex’s place plotting to oust a UK PM on way to yet another young lady..

...what do you think the Kremlin were doing?

DG It adds justification for the next Tory govt to void the referendum is the turnout is low

However, they don't need a justification:

Under our Constitution, Parliament makes laws; referendums don't

Any referendum result can be nullified by Parliament, either immediately, or after a GE by a different govt, or anytime there is an HoC majority to do so.

The only way to bind future Parliaments is by an international treaty, such as the WA
Any domestic UK laws can be repealed by the next govt

Those who think Revoke would end this Brexshit may be as mistaken as those who think No Deal will

My aim is to avoid No Deal, not to force a Revoke that I doubt would hold for long.

Also, the UK is now damaging to the EU,
both because of the UK constantly holding up progress and demanding optouts
and the Faragists in the EU with their platform & EU funds to spread poison

I would really like a thorough official investigation of Russian influence in the Tory party and in the Brexit campaign,
but unless they lose the next GE this won't happen - and probably not even then

Also, maybe even more important is the US contribution to Brexit:
the psyops, dirty money, thinktanks that for years built up the momentum for the ref

When was Muellers plane tracked in and out of Luton? Maybe the briefing was about Bozo.....

Muellers plane was there around the time of one of the earlier marches this year - so either March or July... around the time Boris became PM

Apropos of nothing, just another reminder of why we need to fight, and keep fighting, against the likes of Fartage et al who want to deregulate gun ownership over here.

This from Sandy Hook Promise - warning, contains upsetting content.

Our only chance at an enquiry is if some in the UK get drawn into Trump's impeachment and are investigated there

It would only be for the Russian connection - noone will investigate US oligarchs & BIg Biz financing of the hard right's takeover of the GOP.

Might something be about to happen?

http://m.email3.telegraph.co.uk/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=@ltADKxEwtjLTZIDwXe8GyxhmylYwuamzLyWfIdcNYkc%3D&WT.mcid=eeDM1115138&WT.tsrc=email&etype=EdiBrxxNewsubscriber&utmsource=email&utmmmedium=EdiBrxxNewsubscriber20191011&utmm_campaign=DM1115138

Michel Barnier:
"Brexit is like climbing a mountain. You need vigilance, determination and patience".

That link just says "null" when clicked @BigChocFrenzy.

Nick Gutteridge@nick_gutteridge

Senior EU diplomat: 'The negotiations are going to go on during the weekend.'




Bercow This should work:
bit.ly/2MAd9hw

Per Sebastian Payne:

If Boris Johnson is reviving Theresa May's customs partnership (as per @Steven_Swinford) there are two legal problems.

Back in July 2018, the government accepted two ERG amendments to a trade bill. The first prohibited HMRC from collecting tariffs on behalf of another territory: t.co/vuJB2k0ZRp

The second ERG amendment made it unlawful for Northern Ireland to enter a separate customs territory from UK.

Boris Johnson will have to find a Commons majority to repeal/amend the trade bill if his new Brexit plan is going to fly. t.co/ZbtGXkEszQ

Sterling has perked up for the weekend, so I guess it's job done.

Currency traders don’t have magical powers, they’re just playing the percentage game.

Thread by @nicktolhurst on twitter:

That's a weird account. Every post starts with +BREAKING+.

Yep, I remembered that, Mship but repealing the JRM mischief compared to all the other hurdles ....

Interesting thread on Russian financing of de Pfeffel

+BREAKING+

Multiple media orgs are compiling evidence for publication that Russian financing of Boris Johnson is greater than previously estimated.

& that Alexander Temerko was more heavily involved in the plot to oust Theresa May than previously documented.
2/

While it is already publicly documented that Temerko has financed Conservative party to the tune of millions over the past decade - what is less known is the input he’s had within Johnson’s close circle & the “additional financing” he’s arranged to support Johnson.
3/

I’ve now seen documents that some of the reasoning behind the UK intelligence agencies decision to not share information with Johnson while he was Foreign Minister are due not just to Johnson’s “chaotic private life” but also to his links to Temerko & associates.
4/

One of the ways this financing of Boris Johnson has been hidden is by hiding the money through support for Johnson associates such as former MP James Wharton through Temerko companies.

Wharton you may recall put forward the first bill calling for an EU referendum.
5/

What greatly concerned security services is Temerko didn’t only finance the party & Johnson but used his private resources/accom as part of Johnson plot to oust May.

Implications that an oligarch with Russian military ties was as part of a plot to oust an elected British PM.
6/

UK intel also concerned that Temerko has publicly (in UK) prior to his gaining British citizenship presented himself as being a Putin neutral/opponent - in fact Temerko now revealed to have much closer ties to Kremlin & Russian military than previously suggested.
7/

But here’s where it gets even more worrying:

Theresa May in 2017 became increasingly worried about Russian interference in UK politics/elections & condemn outright Russia from November 2017 onwards - in public.

Why is the date important?
8/

In the very same month that May, informed by UK intelligence of increased Russian interference, announced a new harder line against Russia the Foreign Secretary - one Boris Johnson - came out with a 100% contradiction of May/UK security services.

It is at this point...
9/

At this point 3 things happened:

1. May further curtailed Johnson’s access to classified information
2. Temerko steppes up involvement in plan with Johnson to oust May
3. RT started favourably reporting Johnson’s comment (incl the now famous “not a sausage” comments)

10/

This date also important as it marks the start of Johnson’s growing relationship with Bannon. Up until 2017 Johnson has atleast played at “one nation” but with Brexit - from 2017 this was ditched & he started to essentially to follow Trumpist playbook.
11/

Problem with this thread is Ive enough for 200 tweets. But I’ll leave with this.

90% of above is publicly verifiable. Now while Boris was smoking cigars at Alex’s place plotting to oust a UK PM on way to yet another young lady..

...what do you think the Kremlin were doing?