Westministenders: Boris Johnson Broke The Law

[RedToothBrush]

ITS OFFICIAL
The Highest Court in the Land has ruled that Boris Johnson has broken the law.

Parliament is Sovereign.

Despite the calls for his resignation it is highly unlikely he will under the current political climate.

It must be stressed that the judgement was UNAMINOUS and went further than most expected, and took the hardest possible line again the government

The power now lies with the Speakers of the Lords and Commons to decide when Parliament reopens.

It also means that all the bills which were ended by proroguation are now back in play.

Expect a full backlash from the hard right attacking the courts are going full on 'enemies of the people'. This will be NASTY

The strength of this ruling does pretty much rule out another proroguation as the courts are liable to throw it out immediately if they try it on again.

Johnson is in New York. He needs to get on a plane very quickly.

11 judges who I guess are remainers then

OFGS Highly unlikely that they are all remainers. They did their job in analysing and interpreting the legal position.

Brexit was always going to be far far more complex than either side stated in the referendum campaign

remainers warned it would jam up parliament for years and take years to sort out while disrupting every aspect of politics. Don't rewrite history.

♠️ for Boris

Will he end up in the Tower for treason?

I'm for GNU now.
Trump will dump Boris.
Tump doesn't like losers.

Some are now questioning whether the Benn Act is now law.

The contention is about how the Benn Act was passed into law. It was apparently as part of the proroguation process.

But if proroguation never happened then did the Benn Act pass into law?

The idea that it didn't pass into law is being dismissed, but it does still seem that there might be a loop hole that might be looked at by the government...

Can people stop making GM the focus of Leavers' bile. There were lots of claimants in the proceedings especially the Scottish ones.

Bercow on now...

If the Queen is quite happy to carry on with Boris, as if northing had happened, it's just another boost for the republicans amongst us. It would also open the door for even more scrutiny of the entire Royal family ....

I agree with you.
I can't see this happening in a country where the President does have some powers, as written in the Constitution. Even then, I believe it's common practice to seek advice before agreeing to moves that might not be lawful.

BTW, not sure Boris is surprised, as the main damage may already be done.

I hope the nasty twat Dominic Cummings gets booted out of Downing St ASAP. I blame him (and others) for a lot of this. Actually I hope he ends up in prison!

By coincidence lonelyplanetmum I was just coming here to post that Gina Miller is going to need to up her security. Luckily she's got money to pay for it.

Bercow

HoC to sit tomorrow at 11am

Some are now questioning whether the Benn Act is now law.

Maybe not a bad thing...they could then amend the Benn act to remove the loophole that had excited Raab so.

Parliament back tomorrow at 11:30 am according to Berccow.

No PMQ tomorrow

But full scope for Urgent Questions and Ministerial Statements and Questions under SO24.

Bercow - HOC to sit at 11am tomorrow. PMQ not possible tomorrow but there will be full scope for urgent questions, ministerial statements and applications for emergency debates.

Bercow can hardly stop himself from smirking!

Yes @RedToothBrush we can all listen to the radio, watch TV and read twitter. why the need to post this?

You know shit is gonna go down when you hear SO24

A shame, really - considering the mess our politicians are making of the whole issue, some might well feel that parliament NOT sitting is no bad thing

Re Parliament sitting.
Weve lost a week where the HoC should have been sat and working.
We have some weeks with the party conferences coming (is that next week?) when NORMALLY the HoC isnt sitting.

What is this judgemnet meaning? That MPs have a couple more days to sit and pass SOME laws or find some sort of compromise/solution before Parliament stops again anyway?

Id love to see thr HoC sitting during the conferences to actually get some work done before such a HUGE decision on the 31t October. But can they do that (is it only a convention to do so?)?

James Crisp@JamesCrisp6
How is Brussels reacting to the news that prorogation was unlawful?

Best summed up by two EU officials who asked me separately, "what happens now?!"

@ph_lamberts, leader of Greens in European Parliament and member of influential Brexit Steering Group said.

"The decision confirms what we already knew abt Boris Johnson. That he will spare no tricks to get what he wants..

"He is an ample opportunist. But I look at Jeremy Corbyn and I see a lot of opportunism there as well."

European Commission was questioned on Supreme Court ruling at midday press briefing.

Paddy Smyth asked why commission was so keen to comment on breaches of rule of law in Romania, Hungary and Poland but not UK...

Commission spokeswoman replied:

"No we have all seen the news but it is not for us to comment on the internal constitutional matters of the United Kingdom. "

I asked if Commission viewed, or had ever viewed, Boris Johnson as a reliable negotiator on Brexit, given that the advice he gave to Queen was unlawful.

EC spox: 'Our interlocutor is the United Kingdom government and that remains the case . All other judgments I leave to you'

Senior EU official responds to request for prorogation reaction thusly:

🙄

EU diplomat:

"This doesn't matter. Seeing as Brexit was always about the sovereignty of parliament it has always bewildered us that the the government wanted to suspend it.

"Lets be honest the UK has not been able to settle this question with or without parliament. Does that change now?

Parliament has over and over said what it doesn't like but not what it does.

That may sound harsh but it reflects how bleak we are about this process right now."

why the need to post this? hmm

Why the need to post this?

The cases were brought by more than 70 parliamentarians the majority were male including Ian Murray. The first names was SNP MP Joanna Cherry QC. Funny how despite the numbers it's the non white women get singled out by leavers as if they were the only claimants or petitioners.

I wonder what the wider Tory party make of this ? It's hardly going to make for easy doorstop campaigning where it's most needed ....