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Labour voters, will it be LIB DEMs for you this time?

101 replies

Fleetheart · 08/09/2019 08:01

I’ve always voted labour, and I believe in moderate centre left policies, but certainly can’t vote labour if we have an election. Would love it if there was a labour/lib dem/ green pact, but if not it will have to be Lib Dem. anyone else?

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DarkAtEndOfUK · 08/09/2019 10:29

^at the moment anyway. Failing them it's the Monster Raving Loony party.

Perunatop · 08/09/2019 10:30

It will be a tactical vote here, whatever is most likely to get rid of the Tory MP, which will probably be Labour.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 08/09/2019 10:34

Yes - I think so.

Lib Dem are second here (to a Tory) so it is the practical decision anyway.

FamilyOfAliens · 08/09/2019 10:37

No way would I ever vote for a party that says men can become women and any woman who disagrees isn’t welcome in the Lib Dems.

Fleetheart · 08/09/2019 10:41

I guess the problem is that usually it is the centrists/ moderates who win. So Tony Blair got in on a socialism with some capitalism ticket. David Cameron was Tory but a moderniser. And now we have two extremes. Voters are traditional; they rarely go for extremes. And so with the Lib Dems stance on Europe, I tend to agree with their moderate stance on everything.

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KennDodd · 08/09/2019 10:47

V, v safe v brexity Tory seat. I'll be looking online to see who has the best chance of getting the Tory out and voting for them.

The Tories have been an absolute disaster, they've taken a knife to the heart of this country and split it in two, dividing families and communities and ruining our international reputation, and are pursuing a policy, that by ever measures will do enormous damage to the economy and the peace. How anybody can ever vote for them again if beyond me and I've always been a floating voter.

LadyWithLapdog · 08/09/2019 10:48

Whatever can get the current Tory out. I might have to hold my nose and vote LD.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/09/2019 10:48

I look at how they treat women. I guess it’s the Communist Party for me...

bellinisurge · 08/09/2019 11:15

I despise Corbyn and swore never to vote Labour again while he was Leader.
Frankly, at this point it depends on how strong Tory/Brexit Party are in my Leave/Labour area.

Clementara21 · 08/09/2019 11:16

@fessmess says:
Our Green candidate does well in elections and got nearly 13000 votes in 2017 but Tory got in. However, I am considering voting Lib Dem just to stop Brexit .... Lib Dem's do poorly here. They were after UKIP last time

Why don't you just vote Green? They oppose Brexit too, and sound like they're in a better position to challenge the incumbent Tory MP.

TanMateix · 08/09/2019 11:17

Voters are traditional; they rarely go for extremes.

When they take the time to learn about what they are voting for. But it seems that there is unfortunately a huge segment of the population making their mind about how to vote as if they were supporting a football team or watching the las Big Brother series.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/09/2019 11:18

Even DS was muttering about 1930s Germany and votes this morning (not sure about the context...)

AgeLikeWine · 08/09/2019 11:21

Yes, definitely.

I’m a former Labour activist, but I won’t vote for my old party again while Corbyn is leader. He is useless, he is a life-long Eurosceptic, he is antisemitic and he has surrounded himself with dangerous Marxists (Milne, Murray, Fisher) who should not be anywhere near power.

CrunchyCarrot · 08/09/2019 11:23

I'm a Labour voter by choice but the seat I am in has them at third place with LibDems second to the Tories, so I am likely to vote LibDem. If it was Labour in second place I'd vote for them. I'm not put off by Corbyn, his time as leader is limited, so I'm thinking beyond that.

GreekOddess · 08/09/2019 11:27

I reluctantly voted Labour last time. The party are too left wing for me now. I will vote Lib Dem, I'm not keen on everything that they stand for either but they are the best of the choices available. At least we know where they stand on Europe!

CassianAndor · 08/09/2019 11:31

Given that neither Labour nor the Lib Dems appear to know or care what a woman is, neither.

fessmess · 08/09/2019 11:34

clementara because Greens want second ref and Lib Dems are pure Revoke. I am sick of this stupidity and want to cancel the whole thing. I no longer have the stomach for another Referendum.

DippyAvocado · 08/09/2019 11:43

I'll vote for whoever has the better chance of unseating my tory-bastard mp. As I always do. Never worked yet but I live in hope.

This. I am lib dem by choice but labour were second here before so might hold my nose. Not that there is any chance of unseating the Tories here. I wish we had PR. A vote in the UK elections is really not worth anything unless you live in a marginal seat. And yes, I know it would probably lead to more Brexit party MPs too, but at least your vote would count for something.

Reversiblesequinsforadults · 08/09/2019 11:44

I will vote labour, but then I agree with their left wing policies and my labour mp is great.
I would find it very hard to vote lib dem even if I was in a tactical seat between the lib dem and Tory. They are conservatives with the added remain and liberal policies. I want to invest in public services and the environment, which they have shown they are not bothered about (Jo swinson's voting record is very telling)
Labour are remain enough for me. As much as I don't want brexit, I can't see what the lib Dems could do that would be any different than labour's policy of putting a deal or remain to the people.
I don't understand the objection to corbyn, unless you are simply more of a centrist voter.
However, I'm very pleased people want the Tories out and I'm hoping that due to their opposing views on brexit, the lib Dems won't enable the Tories again.

Fudgenugget · 08/09/2019 11:55

I used to vote Labour but I find JC too far left for my politics. I then began voting for fringe parties but this time I'll just spoil my ballot. The political classes act on their own impulses and desires, ignoring their constituents, due process, and even the law. I am a bit fed-up with them all, to be honest.

RandomFactor · 08/09/2019 12:00

I'm a supporter or Corbyn, but recognise he is not for everyone. The politics of pragmatism should win the day at a GE. The Greens I have much in common with, but it's a wasted vote. The LibDems are remain (as I am) but the rest of their policies are Tory-lite, and Swinson's voting record is extremely right wing. I will cheerfully vote Labour, and encourage everyone who wants to avoid another Tory govt to do so, however reluctantly.

noodlenosefraggle · 08/09/2019 12:05

Mumsnet must be a very select middle class bubble. I would hold my nose and vote Labour because I quite like the new Labour candidate and we are in a swing seat with a 300 Tory majority. However, the site has always been 'Vote Labour/Lib Dem to get the Tories out'. Every time we get to an election, the Tories win. So we are not in any way representative of the population as a whole. Same with Brexit. The country as a whole, as proven by the various by elections and Euro elections is still split down the middle with leave/ hard Brexit just ahead. Its depressing.

raisinseverywhere · 08/09/2019 22:48

Yes I’ll be voting LD. Longtime Labour voter but can’t vote for Corbyn due to antisemitism. I also don’t agree with LD’s view on women, but am able to see this as a temporary viewpoint that will hopefully change over time with its new intake of MPs.

whymewhynow · 09/09/2019 09:57

There are lots of reasons not to vote Labour - not least Corbyn's very feeble opposition to Brexit, anti-semitism, all-women shortlists, Corbyn's general inability to unite and lead - but whenever I think about voting for another party, I remember all those Americans who were too politically pure to vote for Hillary Clinton and ended up with Donald Trump. I live in a Tory/Labour swing seat - currently held by Labour - and I won't risk splitting the vote and letting the Conservatives back in.

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 09/09/2019 10:42

My choice would be labour, I'm another one who has a lot of time for Corbyn and despite his faults is far preferable to Bozo and his crowd of cunts.
In my constituency though (v safe Tory, Brexit, toad of an MP) I'll be voting LD as the only one close enough to topple him. I wish greens, labour and Lib Dem's could agree that only one of them would stand and catch all of the anti Tory bastard votes.

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