Westminstenders: Drain The Swamp

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Johnson lost his first vote by 27.

The Commons take control again, and Johnson is now, with his majority gone, is seeking an election.

Whilst the feeling might be one of victory there is a definite sting in the tail.

Johnson has purged the party of 'trouble makers', meaning any replacements after an election are hard liners. And they will be in safe seats. Possibly many of which will be careerists parachuted in.

The party has split. The civil war is over.

Parliament has just lost some of its very best minds in the process. That bodes ill for us all in the long term. The polarisation has just jacked up a level. The centre has fallen even more.

There are no more moderates.

Polling suggests that Johnson won't be blamed for any of this and that's significant.

Take note of this tweet

Douglas Carswell @Douglascarswell
Boris Vs the political Parasites. Guess who wins across suburban Britain?

The optics are not about what you or I are seeing. Nor about what any of the politicial pundits are seeing.

The Democrats and the Media failed to see Trump coming... And this is what now concerns me. His optics are not bad with his core and targets.

Will Johnson be able to have his election?

If yes, I fear the polls look good for Johnson. People want 'Brexit over with' and don't want another extension. They may or may not understand the ramifications of that.

If no, then what? Johnson can do anything with his numbers. Does that mean potentially two governments and the Queen stuck in the middle? Or does he limp on, with no intention of doing anything but take us over the cliff by counting down the clock?

Or something else?

The Brexit Party and Conservatives now seem to have formally united one way or another. They have aligned with current politics alike the divided Opposition parties.

Tonight the penny might have dropped with a few Labour MPs too. They want May's deal to return. Its the only deal there is, in the absence of a Johnson plan and a Labour / Opposition plan. Too little too late...

This isn't going away as an issue either. Stoking up anger against the rebel alliance is a long term project for the fascist right.

Is tonight’s result a victory? Yes, but my fear is its potential to be a Pyrrhic Victory.

The battle today may have been won, but Johnson still looks set to win...

Not able to watch relying on you lot and Twitter.

Has JRM toned down his performance today ??

I don't think we've seen JRM today so far.

I don’t think there is enough space for all 650 MPs in the chamber. Hence reserving a seat with a prayer card.

More important than one princess is that all those MPs - including earlier defectors like Soubry - tolerated cuts & restrictions to the benefits of ordinary people

I respect and applaud that the rebels are performing their duty to the country
That doesn't mean we have to approve of all their views and decision before

Just the big one: saving the country from their own (former) party
That takes great moral courage and - in the case of those who aren't retiring - also the sacrifice of prestigious careers
Even some of the retirees are giving up what would normally be certain peerages

Regular Westministenders lurker here finally de-lurking to share this...

Bank of England says no deal Brexit not as bad as previously predicted

news.sky.com/story/bank-no-deal-brexit-not-as-bad-as-we-predicted-11802146

Am I cynical to question the timing of this 'correction' being published just 20 minutes before voting on the second reading of EU Withdrawal Bill no 6?

They’re voting on something but missed what it was
Checking in

Enjoying the commentary on BBC Parliament. It’s like a cross between a nature documentary and gossipy cricket commentary when nothing is happening on the pitch.

‘We can see here Antoinette Sandbach embracing Rory Stewart.... oh and now she’s talking to Nick Bowles! Of course they all used to be colleagues in the Tory party, but well....’

Bank of England says no deal Brexit not as bad as previously predicted

How do they know ?

Also, if I was to read the full report, would I discover that (like shit film reviews) someone has played a little fast and loose with the exact text they chose to quote ?

Even some of the retirees are giving up what would normally be certain peerage
Even if BJ declines to give Ken Clark & Nick Soames peerages, which would be very childish/spiteful really, I bet they’ll get them in the future from someone else.

Enjoying the commentary on BBC Parliament. It’s like a cross between a nature documentary and gossipy cricket commentary when nothing is happening on the pitch.

Are they discussing cake ? Would be appropriate ....

Hardly an endorsement of No Deal

Carney says govt prepping has reduced worst case GDP loss from 8% to 5.5% - a shitshow but not as extreme.

"....-^ revised assessment also says unemployment could increase by 7% and inflation may peak at 5.25%^"

and that food prices are likely to rise

Cwenthryth Someone who invalidates OC passes and Emails is unlikely to keep peerages

If they have to wait out 5 years of BJ, then the usual 1 year before a new govt grants new peerages some will be dead.

Also, the Lexiters blithely talk of "only 5 years of Tory govt" .......

Once they get in and take control of the institutions - remember these Tories don't hold to normal constraints - and change voting rules, gerrymander etc ....
it could be decades before a Labour govt

Ayes 329
No 300

Opposition win

Different numbers!

Ooh who else has changed their mind?

7pm for the next vote and then we're into general election vote territory, according to Beth Rigby.

Can't spare the peerages. The Cunning Plan is to create over hundreds of new Brexity Lords to overturn the surrendering remoaner majority.

Caroline Spelman has now also rebelled

Ummmm, "not as bad as previously forecast" is still fucking awful

Governor Mark Carney told the Treasury select committee that the Bank now believes GDP will fall by 5.5% in the worst-case scenario following a no-deal Brexit - less than the 8% contraction it predicted last November.

The Bank's revised assessment also says unemployment could increase by 7% and inflation may peak at 5.25% if the UK leaves the European Union without a deal.

So, a self-inflicted fall in GDP of 5.5%, a self-inflicted increase in unemployment and an increase in food prices Quite apart from the knock-on consequences delays at the ports

Forgive me if I don't jump with joy

Love the Yorkshire accent.

The text of the letter is interesting @DGRossetti

When I read it, the bit that stood out to me was this:

www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/letter/2019/governor-letter-to-chair-of-tsc-re-updated-brexit-scenarios.pdf?la=en&hash=2E567C985959FCF2D80A4F803A7D17392E2855DE

It reads as if they have been asked by 'someone' (ahem, government) to soften their message.

As an ex City PR this kind of thing sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

So that's another one off the 'majority' then I assume..

It's Lancashire

Jenni Russell in The Times - Boris has been planning this all along. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/johnson-and-cummings-believe-their-plan-can-still-work-9fz3dr3t2?shareToken=9a4f2d5704d0fef37efd38fa33e5412b

Also, the Lexiters blithely talk of "only 5 years of Tory govt" .......

Whose first action is to pass an enabling act abolishing elections, and making the PM the UKs "Life Leader". Seriously. No doubt accompanied by all the trimmings, so flags off every building (paid for by the buildings owners, naturally). A picture of the glorious leader in every office and house. And people required to greet each other with a bold "Life Leader !" at the end of every exchange.

The Cunning Plan is to create over hundreds of new Brexity Lords to overturn the surrendering remoaner majority.

Didn't the Lord Speaker said that he only needed had the capacity to swear in 2 new peers a day - so it would take the Government a long time to "flood" the HoL

Oooops