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Imagine I am an alien and I just landed, explain brexit to me..

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HattieMcNastie · 03/09/2019 20:31

And what is happening right now in the simplist of terms please.

(Because I have seriously No idea what is happening)

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 03/09/2019 20:35

Basically we're fucked and can you take me away back to your home planet please?

woman19 · 03/09/2019 20:36

If bullies used to nick your sweets in the playground.

Brexit, and those who paid to persuade good people to vote for brexit, is that.

Shutting down parliament means there are no grown ups to defend you.

At present some friends are trying to stand with you to defend you against the bullies.

But there's not much time, and the bullies may do worse than take your sweets.

woman19 · 03/09/2019 20:37

If you had playgrounds or sweets or bullies on your planet. Grin

CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 03/09/2019 20:41

Boris is that you?

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HattieMcNastie · 03/09/2019 20:42

Clouds 😂😂😂

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Singlenotsingle · 03/09/2019 20:44

There's a gang of 27 bullies who take our money, fish our waters and want to stop us trading with other friends. We voted to leave the group but they don't want us to because they would lose our money. Our previous leader was too intimidated to stand up to them, but our new one is fighting hard to free us from their grip. He is likely to fail because parliament thinks it knows best, and wants to overrule what we voted for.

LaurieMarlow · 03/09/2019 20:47

There's a gang of 27 bullies who take our money, fish our waters and want to stop us trading with other friends.

Yes this is exactly what is happening Hmm

Ffs

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/09/2019 21:01

Or @Singlenotsingle there's a whiney, snot-nosed, spoiled little shit who constantly complains about the other children. He wants special treatment and gets it most of the time because the other kids are fairly nice. Now he wants to go home, taking his ball. But also wants the goalposts, everyone's jumpers, all the oranges (that the nice Spanish boy brought) and his subs back, even though he agreed payment in advance and is leaving early. The other kids agreed that he could take his ball (although that is bad for them) but not everything else.

He's currently bawling his eyes out, high pitched wailing. Everyone wishes he would just STFU but he's convinced if he is enough of a dickhead he'll get what he wants. He's convinced that the team on the other side of town (that would be three buses away and don't have fancy goals) will take him.

Also he's threatening to break his own leg to illicit sympathy.

Wanker.

RuggerHug · 03/09/2019 21:23

MrsTerryPratchet explained it beautifully.

bellinisurge · 04/09/2019 10:33

@MrsTerryPratchett has it exactly

MysteryTripAgain · 04/09/2019 11:50

Here goes;

EU is a club with 28 members. The object of the club is to allow the members to swap among themselves more easily than before.

Anyone can apply to be a member, but all other members must agree. Bit like enrollment in the Free Masons. However, the leader of the Club is not elected by the individuals at the bottom of the pile of each of the members.

10 pay money into the club and the other 18 take money out of the club in addition to the swaps that they make.

Of the 10 members that pay money in to the club one member wants to leave the club after the people of that club voted to leave the club. The club rules do not require members to explain why they want to leave.

The 18 members who take money from the club do not want any of the 10 members who pay into the club to leave as their free money may be reduced.

The other 9 members who pay money into the club do not want the other member who pays in to leave as they may have to pay in more to the club so that the 18 who take money out of the club receive the same as before and do not get bored and want to leave the club as their free money has reduced.

Two of the club members made a deal by mutual consent in 1998, but did not involve the other members of the club. So the deal is not governed by the club rules.

If a club member wants to leave the club it must follow the club rules that were made in 2009. The leave rules are leave with an agreement if possible. If not leave without a agreement and the previous club rules do not apply to the member who voted to leave.

Whether or not the decision by one member of the club to leave the club has advantages or disadvantages for any of the other members of the club does not prevent the member who voted to leave from leaving the club. All members of the club agreed this principle when they all signed the clubs rules for leaving the club in 2009.

Deals made between club members individually do not change the club rules of leaving the club.

Because 9 members of the club who pay money into the club are upset that the other member who pays into the club wants to leave in accordance with the club rules agreed by all 28 members of the club. So they are trying to cheat by saying that the member who wants to leave must follow rules made in a deal that did not involve the club at all and for which the leaders of the club were not a signatory.

The member of the club who wants to leave was once leader of a large club that spanned the World and had more members than the EU does today, but did not object when other members of the club chose to leave. That member understandably expects the same response from the members of the new club they joined in 1973 to behave in the same manner.

bellinisurge · 04/09/2019 12:01

I repeat @MrsTerryPratchett has it exactly

Kazzyhoward · 04/09/2019 12:07

@MysteryTripAgain - sums it up perfectly

bellinisurge · 04/09/2019 12:30

Nope @MysteryTripAgain has not summed it up. @MrsTerryPratchett is your explanation.
And, naturally, the disagreement tells you a great deal in itself.

TheBigBallOfOil · 04/09/2019 12:34

Newsflash, single - parliament is was we voted for. It is our democracy. If it had intended to remove its own sovereignty it would have been perfectly capable of saying so in the legislation which it enabled the referendum in the first place.
That would have had no legal effect of course, because parliament is sovereign and not bound by its successors. If you gave an alternative to these arrangements to suggest, I guess you’ll let us know

MockersthefeMANist · 04/09/2019 12:51

It's as Douglas Adams explained in HHG2G:

  • Why do they vote for lizards?
  • Because if they don't vote for a lizard, the wrong lizard might get in.
MysteryTripAgain · 04/09/2019 13:52

@kazzyhoward

Nope @MysteryTripAgain has not summed it up. @MrsTerryPratchett is your explanation

Guess you will have to post again to confirm your previous post was wrong?

Harabek · 04/09/2019 14:26

Ok, easy as possible.

Some people in the UK want to change their labour, legal and trading arrangements with those in Europe.

Others do not...that's about it.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 04/09/2019 17:42

Shucks.

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whyamidoingthis · 05/09/2019 00:29

I vote for @MrsTerryPratchett.

I'm actually flabbergasted by the delusion in the post by @MysteryTripAgain

The member of the club who wants to leave was once leader of a large club that spanned the World and had more members than the EU does today, but did not object when other members of the club chose to leave. That member understandably expects the same response from the members of the new club they joined in 1973 to behave in the same manner.

Let's examine that italicised piece of text - but did not object when other members of the club chose to leave

-United States - bloody war of independence
-Ireland - many viciously oppressed rebellions, independence following a bloody war of independence
-Afghanistan - independence after the 3rd anglo-afghan war

  • Egypt - a revolt leading to independence
  • India - a campaign of non-cooperation leading to independence but unfortunately also partition
  • Iraq - rebellions leading to independence
  • Kenya - uprisings against british rule, eventually leading to independence
  • Myanmar - violent uprisings, eventually leading to independence
  • Zimbabwe - uprisings leading to eventual independence

and on, and on.

If the UK expect to be treated the same way that the many colonial victims of the UK were treated, then you'd want to start upping your military defences. Thankfully though the EU will not be using violence. The EU have granted concessions to the UK in their attempt to leave but unfortunately the UK have no idea what they actually want.

AgeLikeWine · 05/09/2019 00:45

The Conservative party has been feuding over Britain’s membership of the EU for 40 years.

David Cameron had the bright idea of holding a referendum to settle the argument, once and for all. He thought he would win easily, so nobody bothered to think through what would actually happen if he lost and the country voted to leave.

He did lose. We voted to leave. He quit, and left others to sort out the almighty mess he created.

We are now in deep shit, because the government wants to leave the EU ASAP, regardless of how much damage is done to our economy, but Parliament thinks leaving the EU is a very bad idea, and they are almost certainly correct, so they are trying (ideally) to stop it, or for us to leave in a way which doesn’t trash our economy.

The Conservative party is still feuding about Europe.

Apileofballyhoo · 05/09/2019 01:05

Mystery Trip here's a little list of all the times Ireland tried to leave the UK, or whatever it was called prior to the UK. If the UK gets out of the EU in 300 years, it'll still be a lot quicker than the length of time Ireland was trying to leave the UK. I've come to the conclusion you're slightly unbalanced.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_uprisings

Mrs TP super.

Topseyt · 05/09/2019 02:46

Mysterytrip, you are deluded if you think that the British Empire was benign and kindly. People didn't simply roll over and gladly accept our invasions of their countries. They fought for independence.

Others have already listed some of the events that brought it down. Take of your sepia tinted spectacles and see it for what it was - big bully Britain thinking that all who didn't like our presence was insurgents who ought to be crushed.

Do you really think that we should go back to trading around the world that way??!! If you do then you are deluded.