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Westminstenders: The Imperial March

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RedToothBrush · 28/07/2019 14:33

There are many ways to enforce power indirectly using privilege. Jacob Rees Mogg knows every trick in the book and dresses it up as respectability rather than a subtle form or intimidation and deliberate exclusion.

It's not the stuff 'of the people'.

Meanwhile the newly crowned PM, is making rather a bug deal of how he is the man 'of the people', here to serve them and to deliver their will.

There's a big theme here about presenting as 'of the people' whilst simultaneously serving the interests of the elite and reestablishing its power over the people.

It's a theme that is set to run for some time, and is entrenched in Trumpism too.

This shift in power is particularly harmful to women it must be noted.

'Strong and stable' was 'weak and wobbly' and we should be mindful that in the era of reversed spin, what 'of the people' signifies.

We've long known about the authoritarianism at the heart of leaving thinking. It's only now that it's finally going to start stomping it's feet all over our freedoms and power.

The road back will be a long and hard one because we failed to spot the threat and the dangers of it.

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BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 19:35

We don't know how good they were at their previous jobs

but they are thick as mince at their current jobs

e.g.
Raab:
discovering so late that Dover was vital for our food
< which every British MP should have known - even most of us here did >

David Davies:
"Within two years – before negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete and therefore before anything material has changed –
we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU.
The new trade agreements will come into force at point of exit.”

Michael Gove:
"The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want"

BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 19:36

Kevin Schofieldd@PolhomeEditor*

Senior Labour source:

“This is the summer of Seumas. The Shadow Cabinet can go to hell.”

BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 19:39

The Guardian@guardian

The official transcript of parliamentary proceedings, Hansard, records more than 700 instances of Rees-Mogg using one or other of the banned words or phrases.
Hmm

Jason118 · 29/07/2019 19:40

Send him to the tower!

BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 19:45

Neil Coyle@coyleneil (Labour MP)

Labour member?
Want the end of austerity?
Want to transform lives from within Government?
Want to end foodbank use, homelessness, poverty?

Then we need to change one key thing...
People do not need to suffer Johnson's rightwing regime

MoS_Politics@MoS_Politics

Mail on Sunday / Deltapoll shows Labour would beat Tories if they ditched Corbyn.... 👀

Westminstenders: The Imperial March
BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 19:46

Will JRM send himself to the Tower for using words & phrases he banned ?

No, rules are for plebs

Jason118 · 29/07/2019 19:47

And they needed a poll to find that out!

BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 19:50

From that MoS poll:

Ditching Corbyn would change a 5% Tory lead into a 6% Labour one

They would almost certainly replace him with a Remainer

  • Brexit looks part of the issue with Lexiter Corbyn
BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 19:52

He has some believers !

howabout was earlier claiming Labour would lose votes by getting more Remainy
and has claimed before that they would lose votes ditching Corbyn for a more centrist leader

Alsohuman · 29/07/2019 20:14

In their dreams.

tobee · 29/07/2019 20:18

And re reading a few other threads, I notice the trolls are all similarly frenetic in their posting.

A feeling of crack cocaine having been handed out at nursery school. Confused

RedToothBrush · 29/07/2019 20:47

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-eu-workers-rights-david-frost-theresa-may-barnier-a9025596.html
Boris Johnson’s new Brexit chief wants to scrap Theresa May’s commitment on workers’ rights
Exclusive: David Frost suggested Brexit could be an opportunity to escape the EU’s ‘heavy labour market regulation’

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Iambuffy · 29/07/2019 20:48

All is well!
No questions!
Hail the blonde leader!

RedToothBrush · 29/07/2019 20:48

That's the guy replacing Olly Robbins...

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Mistigri · 29/07/2019 20:48

Presumably the invasion of trolls is all part of Johnson's propaganda campaign.

I reckon. Though I don't think they find Mumsnet very fertile ground. I think the aim is to shut threads down rather than to change minds. Very much like pre referendum when SpringingIntoAction was all over every thread with her C&P over 'n' ova posting style.

jasjas1973 · 29/07/2019 21:02

The MoS giving advice on how to beat the Cons? and we suck it up! riiiiight.

BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 21:02

The desire of Liz Truss and other Tories for a post-Brexit alliance will deliver the UK into Washington’s pocket

Is this really what Lexiters wanted ? Hmm
Because it's what BJ intends to deliver

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/29/trump-trade-deal-britain-bonfire-regulations-liz-truss-brexit

Boris Johnson’s ruthless reshuffle makes one thing very clear:

Brexit is about giving the right wing of the Tory partythe chance to finish the Thatcher revolution”.

Johnson filled his government with ultra-free market ideologues such as Priti Patel, Dominic Raab, Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng,
who in 2012 vowed to give a good kick to the great British public, who they described asamong the worst idlers in the world”.

Their plan to “unchain Britannia” by declaring war on the “bloated state, high taxes and excessive regulation”
is actually a plan to unchain big business,
which they believe, astonishingly, has suffered from masses of overregulation on the part of successive governments from Tony Blair to David Cameron.

Right at the ideological heart of this group is Liz Truss, founder of the Free Enterprise Group of Conservative MPs.
Truss is a turbo-charged Thatcherite who has now replaced Liam Fox as international trade secretary.

She has repeatedly spoken of her desire to drive down taxes, cut back public spending
and strip away regulations on everything from housing, to education, to the workplace.

In Truss’s mind, it would be a “complete contradiction of the Brexit voteif it isn’t used to impose “fiscal discipline and economic liberalisation
[to] give people power over their own money and their own lives”.
< to give RICH people power over everyone's money & lives >

MeganBacon · 29/07/2019 21:09

if this leave government is so intelligent and great where's the comprehensive list of medicines that are being stockpiled?
Hazard I don't know where the list is but until you or I have walked a mile in their shoes I don't think we are qualified to call them "thick as mince" thereby invalidating many other valid arguments that remainers have.

Jason118 · 29/07/2019 21:16

If they're not thick as mince, why are we still going through with this nightmare? There is no way on earth that this is the willy of the people.

BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 21:21

We don't need to walk a mile in their shoes to read the outrageous fantasies and gaps in their knowledge
to realise how incompetent they are at their jobs
how totally inadequate for carrying out Brexit

BigChocFrenzy · 29/07/2019 21:22

I disagree with Brexit, but it never had to be this godawful mess and humiliation for the country

That is down to the incompetent and delusional Tory Brexiters who are trying to carry it out

flouncyfanny · 29/07/2019 21:31

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MeganBacon · 29/07/2019 21:31

If they're not thick as mince, why are we still going through with this nightmare?
Or maybe we should ask why the Remain campaign have not been able to counter the "thick as mince" Brexiters, if they are all so much cleverer?

MeganBacon · 29/07/2019 21:35

I mean look at how ineffective the remainers have been, soubry, grieve, blair, heseltine etc.etc.. Three years they had to find a way out of this. You just can't deny that the brexiters have played a cleverer game. Gina Miller is the only one who I take my hat off to.

Hazardtired · 29/07/2019 21:37

But Megan will you eat it?

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