Leavers aghast at getting arch Leaver as PM....

[Miljah]

Anyone else got Leaver 'friends', family or work colleagues who are stunned and horrified at getting Bojo The Clown as PM?

I want to slap them.

Instead, I cannot help myself, but I say things along the lines of 'Well, I guess it's a good thing getting a hard Brexit PM, at least now you know you're getting Brexit, come what may...' to which they say 'It didn't say anything about a no deal Brexit at the referendum'...

Well, my voting slip didn't say anything at all about what Leave would look like, too, which is why I didn't project what sort of Leave I, personally imagined; which is one reason why I voted Remain. Apart from all the other good reasons for staying on the inside of a hugely successful trading block.

My DB is a classic, flippy-floppy Brexiter.

Voted Leave. And, as above, told me what his version of Leave would look like. We'd have this, but not that, and so forth. Then, at the GE designed to seal TM's mandate, not only voted Labour but joined the Labour Party . Then, at the EP elections, voted LD- and is horrified about BJ.

FFS, the analytical ability of tarmac.

What did Leavers expect?

GhostofFrankGrimes

You obviously weren't listening to Boris Johnson's pledges on police, hospitals and schools last week...

And you are kidding yourself if you think that Jeremy Corbyn will win a general election for Labour.

You obviously weren't listening to Boris Johnson's pledges on police, hospitals and schools last week...

Words are cheap, especially with people like Boris Johnson. When the money is committed and the recruitment drives are completed we will see how many of his promises come true. I am not holding my breath.

You obviously weren't listening to Boris Johnson's pledges on police, hospitals and schools last week...

Why should I trust a man who stood in front of the infamous red bus? The Tories have cut public services to the bone over the last 10 years. Why burn the house down to rebuild it again at great tax payer expense? Especially when they've been banging on about no magic money trees.

Why burn the house down to rebuild it again at great tax payer expense?

Because the country was suffering the long term effects of the 2008 global financial crisis, Labour's overspending in government and the EU's austerity policy - now we are not.

Yes, Clavinova - tell that to the people who are using food banks. Better still find something to cut and paste which shows that food banks have disappeared.

Peregrina
The new spending initiatives were only announced a few days ago. I doubt that food banks will disappear - France and Germany have more food bank users than we do - supermarkets in France are threatened with hefty fines if they are found to have dumped unsold food instead of donating it to food bank charities.

supermarkets in France are threatened with hefty fines if they are found to have dumped unsold food instead of donating it to food bank charities.

In fact food has to be sold or donated, and there are apps individuals can use to buy it. I doubt most ends up at food banks, because they tend to want storable food, rather than squishy veg and yesterday's croissants.

I am not at all sure about the (unsourced, as usual) claim that France has more food banks than the U.K.. In fact I don't think there are any dedicated food bank organisations; food distribution occurs via existing charities like the Red Cross.

Because the country was suffering the long term effects of the 2008 global financial crisis, Labour's overspending in government and the EU's austerity policy - now we are not.

Austerity was ideological choice from a party that detests public services and loves the small state. Johnson is pandering to populism but why question a man behind the infamous garden bridge and red bus when he offers easy, intellect free solutions. Its they same blueprint as Brexit.

If Boris was wearing a red rosette instead of a blue one, would we not be talking about the magic money tree? He can't slash taxes and ramp up spending with exploding the deficit.

Why are leavers obsessed with what other countries are doing? Distraction technique. The UK handed out a recorded number of food parcels last year. Get your own house in order before you point fingers elsewhere. The UK is going backwards fast.

The Times March 2019;

"Philip Hammond has ample room to end austerity this year after banking £30 billion in lower borrowing forecasts in his spring statement, leading think tanks have said."

"Both the Institute for Fiscal Studies and the Resolution Foundation claimed the country has turned a corner.“Improved public finances mean the debate will shift from cuts versus investment to how much more we should spend,” Torsten Bell, director of the Resolution Foundation, said yesterday."

On the other hand:
Labour’s Higher Education proposals will cost £8bn per year;
www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9217

The UK handed out a record number of food parcels last year.

That's because people know that food banks exist - France wants to increase food bank use, not decrease it, they have applied for extra funds from the EU to roll this policy out. We had a UK food bank user on the Mumsnet forum recently - she only received vouchers for a 'decent' food parcel a few times a year - it's not the safety net it's made out to be in the UK. Indeed, many food bank users only ask for a food parcel once or twice a year - it's not every week for the majority. What's more important is providing a safety net for the rest of the year - although one of the problems according to various charities, is that Universal Credit is paid monthly, not weekly, which makes it difficult for people on low incomes to budget.

Mistigri
I didn't notice your post before;

Feb 2016 "France has become the first country in the world to ban supermarkets from throwing away or destroying unsold food, forcing them instead to donate it to charities and food banks."

"The law follows a grassroots campaign in France by shoppers, anti-poverty campaigners and those opposed to food waste" ...

"Jacques Bailet, head of Banques Alimentaires, a network of French food banks, described the law as “positive and very important symbolically.”He said it would greatly increase an already emerging trend for supermarkets to donate to food banks."

“Most importantly, because supermarkets will be obliged to sign a donation deal with charities, we’ll be able to increase the quality and diversity of food we get and distribute,” he said.“In terms of nutritional balance, we currently have a deficit of meat and a lack of fruit and vegetables.This will hopefully allow us to push for those products.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/04/french-law-forbids-food-waste-by-supermarkets

EU Commission
FRANCE
FEAD budget allocation: € 499.3 million + National contribution: € 88.1 million. How the funds are being spent: providing food aid to those most in need.This is complemented by accompanying measures such as guidance and support to help them get out of poverty.

"23 May 2019 Elior, the leader in contract catering in France, has forged a partnership with the French Federation of Food Banks to redistribute its surplus food produce to associations in a bid to reduce food waste."

"By teaming up with the FFBA, Elior will now be able to redistribute the surplus food stuffs from its 9,700 restaurants and central kitchens in France to associations providing support to people in need."

www.eliorgroup.com/press/press-releases/elior-france-teams-french-federation-food-banks-fight-against-food-waste

That's because people know that food banks exist

That must be one of your more stupid posts, among many. People in a wealthy country, especially those in work, should not need food banks. Their wages should be enough to feed them.

That must be one of your more stupid posts, among many.
I disagree.

People in a wealthy country, especially those in work, should not need food banks.Their wages should be enough to feed them.
I agree.