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Westminstenders: It couldn't get any worse... Until today

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RedToothBrush · 09/07/2019 22:02

We are trapped in the tailspin of the end of the UK. Firmly headed downward and getting more and more frenzied and desperate.

Even the most sensible of types like David Allen Green have finally noticed that Brexit isn't about leaving the EU it's about the frenzied and wilful destruction of our state instutions and structure. The collapse of the civil service, of our justice system, our democratic institutions and social order. All in the name of rule Britannia, a warped sense of taking back control to preserve an ideal that never existed and an idea of sovereignity that simply was a fantasy.

We move ever closer to Johnson becoming Prime Minister and a life under President Trump.

Joy.

Ode to Joy really isn't that bad.

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DGRossetti · 10/07/2019 16:48

DG is that an authentic Jim quote?

To be honest I can't say. It was something that did the rounds years ago - before the internet. But it seemed appropriate since the BBC has obviously been directed to put a positive spin on being unemployed moving forwards. I'm guessing (in no particular order)

A sitcom where a bunch if unemployed guys form a nursery.
A gritty drama set in the City about a bunch of unemployed bankers who form a dance troupe.

I really should be sending these in myself ...

Violetparis · 10/07/2019 16:56

Red I wondered about Darroch's pension too and whether he would get it in full if he resigned. Surely, you wouldn't risk that for the sake of 6 months or so left in the job. I am now wondering if he has agreed to go early with a massive pay off so that Theresa May can install someone else before Boris can.

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2019 16:59

I am now wondering if he has agreed to go early with a massive pay off so that Theresa May can install someone else before Boris can.

This is what I am watching for...

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Frankiestein402 · 10/07/2019 17:00

Re pension - I understood he's a civil servant so has resigned his "posting" not necessarily from the civil service. (and at that level would serve at least 3 months notice anyway)

tobee · 10/07/2019 17:02

That's very true howabout. But so is what I said. Not mutually exclusive Smile

tobee · 10/07/2019 17:04

DG I expect that the BBC would welcome those ideas. Sadly they don't have the money to do sitcoms. Unless is Mrs Brown's Boys Hmm

Violetparis · 10/07/2019 17:14

Frankenstein402 thanks for your post, you are correct, he may still stay in the civil service but in another post. Intrigued as to who will choose his successor.

BestIsWest · 10/07/2019 17:15

Placemarking with a baby starling

Westminstenders: It couldn't get any worse... Until today
1tisILeClerc · 10/07/2019 17:27

From SKY online:
{"You (Britain) are the initiator of insecurity and you will realise the consequences later," Rouhani said after a cabinet meeting on Wednesday, the semi-official news agency Tasnim reported.}

What the UK needs are some very cool headed diplomats to defuse this issue.

Might there be a tinsey wincey problem here?

tobee · 10/07/2019 17:28

Looking at the BBC breaking news about Jennie Formby and Seumus Milne and anti semitism disciplinary interference looks like this Summer's project for everyone is self annihilation

tobee · 10/07/2019 17:29

Best my granddad has it in for starlings in a big way. Sad

tobee · 10/07/2019 17:30

Had. He died before I was born.

RHTawneyonabus · 10/07/2019 17:30

I’m sure he’s still a civil servant and they could find him a ‘review’ to conduct for six months. But I can’t think that’s what he wanted to end a stellar career.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2019 17:35

howabout If BJ had just issued the same statement of support for Darroch and polite standing up to Trump that Hunt did

  • before the resignation- then he wouldn't be getting stick now

He chose to keep quiet, which was taken by all sides to mean that Darroch was Dead Man Walking

The main culprit is the Brexiter who decided to use dirty tricks and leak, to a Brexiter journo
but BJ's earlier silence suggested he planned to take advantage of the leak, until things got too hot

BJ's own behaviour is what has earned him the condemnation

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2019 17:37

Maybe he could supervse the leak enquiry Grin

DGRossetti · 10/07/2019 17:38

"You (Britain) are the initiator of insecurity and you will realise the consequences later," Rouhani said after a cabinet meeting on Wednesday, the semi-official news agency Tasnim reported.

Anyone putting money on the US using the UK as a proxy in their spat with Iran ? Obviously no one in the UK has the faintest idea about Anglo-Iranian history - especially the bit where the UK helped Kermit Roosevelt depose the democratically elected government to install the Shah in the 50s. Somehow I'm guessing a lot of Iranians do know.

SwedishEdith · 10/07/2019 17:58

steve richards
@steverichards14

If D Trump can remove a UK ambassador with a few tweets imagine the dynamics of a trade negotiation - a US President that openly puts ‘America first’ and a UK PM not known for a mastery of detail desperate for a post Brexit deal. Trump sees a big opportunity with good cause.

SwedishEdith · 10/07/2019 18:02

Head of the Diplomatic Service

Sir Simon McDonald
‏*@SMcDonaldFCO*

At @foreignoffice we stand together. More colleagues attended my all-staff meeting to express solidarity with @KimDarroch than any other in my 4 years as PUS

SwedishEdith · 10/07/2019 18:04

Steven Swinford
@Steven_Swinford

Exclusive

Times 5pm splash with @elliotttimes

Theresa May is considering appointing Sir Kim Darroch's successor herself in one of her final acts as Prime Minister

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/british-ambassador-sir-kim-darroch-quits-after-attack-by-trump-dbrpc0l73

LonelyTiredandLow · 10/07/2019 18:36

Surely she can't leave the post vacant? Idiot Brexiteers strike again. Trump didn't have to keep the spat going but he did, which to me signals this was part of a plan to help Nige. These short men, jizzing too soon Wink.

I'm also watching the Iran escalation. I posted on the last thread how we had helped US with the Gibraltar escapades last week. Looks like we are fighting to show our allegiance. Not sure that would happen had it been this week Hmm. Some rather suspicious timings here.

Also re the shipping DGR, I saw an article in the Guardian last week about what happened when the opened up Companies House. Looks like a similar bid to gain income and drop standards.

1tisILeClerc · 10/07/2019 18:47

Added to There's a hole in my £3.1billion battleship bucket dear Lizzie, dear Lizzie', things are going well.

1tisILeClerc · 10/07/2019 18:48

Imagine sending to to the South China sea and having to ask the Chinese to rescue it.

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2019 18:52

You remember how Trump gutted the US civil service...

... Keep remembering that.

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Peregrina · 10/07/2019 19:18

Aren't US Civil Service posts more political than ours?

Isn't it amazing (not) that our Leaver friends don't seem to be able to complain about this? Imagine if Macron or Merkel had insulted our Diplomat - it would be proof to them about how bad the EU/Germany/France are.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2019 19:36

red Trump is also appointing so many new judges that the hard right will retain a lot of control in the country even if he isn't re-elected next year