Just how exactly are we going to 'bring the country back together'?

[KennDodd]

Both candidates for PM have claimed they can do this. I heard a Tory party member interviewed on the radio saying that the best way to do this was a 'no deal/WTO/crash out because we'll all be in it together and it'll be like the war'.
I don't know how these wounds are going to heal.

"For me Scotland wanting independence from UK and NI and ROI hoping for a United Ireland is the same as UK wanting independence from the EU"

That would be because you have no idea why there's a difference.

Actually a lot in the EU (both politicians and ordinary people) now think that the sooner Britain leaves the better. If I didn't have British relatives, and if it weren't for Ireland, I'd agree with them.

Just like EU has bricks 🧱 in their pants.

Eh? No they don't. They hold all the cards remember? And have had to put up with some pretty bullish and offensive statements from MPs to boot.

For me Scotland wanting independence from UK and NI and ROI hoping for a United Ireland is the same as UK wanting independence from the EU

With the greatest of respect you've already demonstrated you have no understanding of the history between Ireland and Britain and also little understanding of Scotland and our politics. So that's ok, you're entitled to your view, based on nothing.

What I think will happen is that England and Wales will end up very isolated without trade deals or support from their neighbours (why would they have that when the politicians have spent the last 3 years insulting other nations?) while Scotland and possibly a united Ireland are in the EU moving forward.

Honestly at this point, I'll vote the way that saves the future of my children than anyone else's. And that means yes in Indy 2.

Westminster may think they can squash it but the mood up here is not for having that and yet another dismissal from Westminster.

If the Westminster parties had any interest in pleasing everyone, there are solution but they are not interested.

Denmark for example has parts of it inside and parts of it outside the EU and it works perfectly.

Scotland and NI could stay in and England could still have its Brexit, but neither Westminster nor the English electorate are interested in that.

Lifecontinues? Are you Scottish?

@LifeContinues lives in the Far East. But if you want him to tell you why he is better than other men he would be happy to do so.

I'm genuinely embarrassed to be English and honestly feel like people from the other countries in the union probably blame us all for what's happening

You shouldn't have to feel that way, it's politics and a loud, offensive minority in the news who are giving England a bad name. If people are too stupid or wilfully ignorant to understand that England isn't all football hooligan racists, there's no reasoning with them.

Honestly, and I can only speak from an SNP standpoint, we're just fucked off with being told to go home (yes, that actually happened in the HoC), jeered at and talked over. Every time it happens it galvanises Indy 2 a little bit more. That and the no voters of 2014 who voted no in order to remain in the EU (as promised by David Cameron) who have been spectacularly screwed over. The mask has slipped and the Tories didn't even bother to hide their contempt for Scotland and our people, which turned a lot of people as well.

I'm gutted that England will suffer so badly, honestly if you gave me the choice between stopping Brexit and independence I'd take the first choice. But I fear it's too late now, so I'll hang on to Indy.

There's a common phrase among nationalists when English folk ask if they'd be welcome in Scotland after Indy. "Come on up, the kettle's on!"

It's just not widely reported because it doesn't fit with the anti English pish they're pedalling. There's an Indy campaign group called English Scots for Yes!

in fact I don't personally know a single Londoner who did vote leave (or at least who admits to it)

My sis did. She is probably one of the most brexity person I know. She can't articulate her argument. She lives in a very Brexit part of London where IDS is the mp.

bellinisurge that explains a LOT!

LifeContinues is from the North East. His analysis of Thatcher and the Miners's strike is good, and I will leave it at that.

Polling indicates that at least 500,000 would relocate from England to Scotland in the event of Brexit and Independence.

That would be the biggest social and economic boost Scotland has had in its history. Business is already preparing and in the event of Brexit and Indy, Scotland will he a magnet for investment.

Organisations such as Barclays already know which way the wind is blowing and they are making huge investments in Scotland.

Scotland are entitled to a second referendum as there has been a material change since the 2014 independence referendum which was a caveat in the 2014 referendum if memory is correct. The change being that UK, of which Scotland is a member state, has voted to leave the EU

Scotland are entitled to a second referendum as there has been a material change since the 2014 independence referendum which was a caveat in the 2014 referendum if memory is correct. The change being that UK, of which Scotland is a member state, has voted to leave the EU

This is true incidentally. Hence TM ordering a panicked review into the Scottish Government and if it's working for Westminster, because the power grab she'd planned post Brexit caused a LOT of ill feeling and she knows she can't actually refuse Indy 2 despite her bluster.

Scotland will he a magnet for investment

Pleased I kept the property in Scotland.

Polling indicates that at least 500,000 would relocate from England to Scotland in the event of Brexit and Independence.

Fantastic! As I said, the kettle's on

We need people to move here, we need outside investment and trade deals, we have a rich, diverse and varied culture and are bloody proud of it! We know we can't stand alone, without good relations with neighbouring countries.

Incidentally whenever I hear anyone wittering about immigration, I do chuckle because the LA who has the most refugees per capita and also one of the highest FOM per capita is Glasgow City Council.

"Pleased I kept the property in Scotland."
Yes, you are so in touch with ordinary people and their property portfolios.

“Pleased I kept the property in Scotland.”

Quite. As demand increases dramatically, valued will rise and the biggest construction boom Scotland has ever seen should last at least 20 years.

Keep wondering if Mr Dyson might be LifeContinues

Yes yes, you lot can all eat chlorinated chicken, have pesticides that cause cancer, drop in sterling and have less rights. I agree to all of that as long as I live in Asia Interesting watching what he would merrily do to those of us stuck here.

As an addition to the moving to Scotland idea - if there is a vote for independence, what is going to happen to Trident?

Would love to move to Scotland. Keep wondering whether to do it sooner or wait to hear a ref will definitely be happening and then do it (am 99% sure Yes would win this time).

“As an addition to the moving to Scotland idea - if there is a vote for independence, what is going to happen to Trident?”

A deal will be done where it can remain at a rental cost to the UK, until is is decommissioned and/or relocated.

For all who don't want Brexit. Please share widely.

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/march-for-change-july-20-coaches-from-devon-to-london-tickets-64311365024?fbclid=IwAR38fOJzyiFQshCrv_p3LVKesy3lMykVPgnyi2ZN_5C078KGfdKq7YfA9Ms

what is going to happen to Trident?

They can take it back and store it somewhere that isn't here. Until then they can pay rent to keep it here while it's decommissioned.

A better link.

www.bestforbritain.org/marchforchange

Quite. As demand increases dramatically, valued will rise and the biggest construction boom Scotland has ever seen should last at least 20 years

Hope so. Will be retired by then.