Westminstenders: Long live liberalism

[RedToothBrush]

Talk of its demise are premature.

(Sorry up to eyeballs this weekend)

Bellinisurge, I warn you I'm a real ray of sunshine this morning...

Two threads from the feminism section which might interest some here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632392-Dr-Em-article-The-Rainbow-Reich-Transgender-Ideology-and-Totalitarianism-Very-important-analysis-of-context-this-attack-on-women-is-global-and-cross-cultural-It-comes-in-many-different-guises
About how erosion of language and reality from the left is helping the rise of totalitarianism and the erosion of women's power.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632470-R4-10-part-series-by-Michael-Crick-Tales-from-the-Lobby-the-next-biggest-scandal-waiting-to-happen-1-45-pm
About how lobbying is a big deal and eroding democracy. Complete with my cheery analysis of how Crick is totally wrong that this will be the next scandal and how instead it is destined to be our future.

In other news. I might have broadband by tonight if I'm lucky.

Interesting article from Fintan. David Cameron's instruction was for 'no planning' for a leave vote. Theresa May's department for exiting the EU excluded people who had experience of the EU in case they had 'gone native'.

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-a-spiffing-tale-of-how-brexit-was-spaffed-away-1.3950422

I missed Panorama, was that yesterday (Monday?)
Will be watching the Johnson/Hunt debate tonight tho.

@RedToothBrush , I hope that you get your broadband sorted.
DH, for reasons related to his work, is trying to maintain what my late Mum would call a Pollyanna grin of positivity at work to keep everyone going. And comes home pretty washed out so I try and do the same at home.
The grin is becoming increasingly fixed and the reasons motivating it increasingly flimsy.

I missed last night's Panorama too, am going to iPlayer it.

We had a sad task, taking a fledgling pigeon who'd been in our garden for the past 2 weeks (being fed by his dad) to a wildlife hospital as there was something clearly wrong with one wing. Turned out it had had a broken bone for quite some time, it was infected and the baby would not have survived much longer. So they put it to sleep. Felt very sad, esp this morning as dad is still looking for his young one.

From Fintan's article:
{Strategic mistakes

It is worth saying that the EU made mistakes, especially in the period between the Brexit referendum in June 2016 and May’s triggering of the Article 50 withdrawal process in March 2017.}

I could actually see that the possibility that EU used the UK imposed idiocy as a 'tool' to persuade the UK to decide if it wants to be in or out. The UK had been negative and disruptive for many years with regard to the EU and at a time when there are some very serious issues to be resolved, like the large influx of immigrants from N Africa and the East, the EU really needs people who will join in not bugger around.

Does anyone know the title of the book by Chris Cook which Fintan O’Toole refers to in Cailleach’s link.
I’ve searched and can’t find anything.

Having a power cut and no broadband makes most of Brexit go away .
It also stopped me finishing my breakfast.

Does anyone know the title of the book by Chris Cook which Fintan O’Toole refers to in Cailleach’s link.

It appears to be an online book, written in instalments. Here's part 1:

members.tortoisemedia.com/2019/05/18/brexit-part-one/content.html

I also found this:

www.bradford-delong.com/2019/05/chris-cook-defeated-by-brexit-forgetting-our-history-weekend-reading.html

It seems May has, for the time being at least, told Trump to fuck off.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48917307
Ambassador 'has PM's full support' despite Trump criticism

Downing Street has reaffirmed its "full support" for the UK's ambassador to the US after Donald Trump said he will no longer work with him.

The US president was responding after leaked emails revealed Sir Kim Darroch had called his administration inept.

She might have been rather more polite about it than me though.

Labour today saying they are behind a second ref and will be backing remain. Could this be a glimmer of hope?

Could tory rebels join labour in a no confidence vote and topple Johnson as soon as he gets the keys? Or am I dreaming....

From SKY online:
{Far-right activist Tommy Robinson has asked Donald Trump to grant him asylum in the US as he faces being jailed in the UK.}

Claiming possibly 2 years in prison in the UK will 'kill' him'.

Far-right activist Tommy Robinson has asked Donald Trump to grant him asylum in the US as he faces being jailed in the UK.}

Claiming possibly 2 years in prison in the UK will 'kill' him'.

Oh, the heart bleeds doesn't it?

Good news for a change about ickle Tommy finding prospect of prison too horrible.

I missed last night's Panorama too, am going to iPlayer it.

Why ? If you're looking for an unbiased investigation into the UKs preparedness for no-deal, you certainly won't find it there. What you will find is a puff piece worthy of Mary Berry where all the negatives are "maybes" and "potentially" whilst all the positives are "assured" and "definite".

They'll probably choose the smartest Brexiteers and the more rentamob remainers just to get the message across.

And that's before you remember this is a "new" style BBC programme. I.e twice the length and half the content.

crunchy 💐 You were very kind to that visitor in your garden
Nature is very cruel sometimes

UK prisons are a damn sight less dangerous and cruel than US ones
I presume he doesn't want to serve his sentence there, but to join up with the fascist white supremacists there

Political asylum for a fascist being a fascist - on what grounds ?

That BBC article actually had 2 useful quotes:

Former Conservative leader and ex-foreign secretary Lord Hague....."
"You would never have any honest report from any ambassador in the world if you said:
'Well, if any of their communications are released, we'll then have to remove them from their position.'"
......
ex-British ambassador to the US ...... said there was a "possible range of villains" who potentially could have made the leak.
Sir Christopher Meyer told Today:

"It was clearly somebody who set out deliberately to sabotage Sir Kim's ambassadorship,
to make his position untenable and to have him replaced by somebody more congenial to the leaker."

Tommy could make a lot of money in the US but he needs a visa to go.

Given he has a criminal record this makes it particularly difficult for him to go on any other type of visa as he simply doesn't make the criteria.

Of course being the 'poor ickle victim' works for him. He can't lose. And tbh, Trump probably wins by granting it too.

I've read JCs letter.

Same old shot, different day innit?

So, Grieve amendment not selected. FFS

"Tommy could make a lot of money in the US but he needs a visa to go."

Aha, of course, there's a lot more money to be made from fascism there
Here, you really need to be posh and have money already

I've read JCs letter

Me too. So glad he’s clarified Labours position

If I’m honest I’m relieved. Even a fully Remain Labour Party with JC as leader wouldn’t tempt enough people back to Labour. Jeremy has been too shit a leader for too long.

Maybe Corbyn is more likely to quit once this latest fudge falls on its arse.

The Land of Opportunity:

."Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Didn't Lou Reed paraphrase:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

by adding

and piss all over them ?