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Westminstenders: Long live liberalism

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RedToothBrush · 30/06/2019 11:54

Talk of its demise are premature.

(Sorry up to eyeballs this weekend)

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Songsofexperience · 01/07/2019 22:40

Very busy time at work so hard to keep up. I read Hunt's plan though and felt like I'd taken a wrong turn in space time.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/07/2019 22:41

Best wishes to your DH, Misti 💐
I hope he is home again asap

You should be able to weather whatever Brexit idiocy our new PM - if we ever get one - decides
Won't your current insurance continue, despite Brexit ?
And your family is self-supporting

I just plan to continue with my private insurance in retirement

BigChocFrenzy · 01/07/2019 22:46

A VoNC looks like the only way to stop a new PM bent on No Deal
Other tactics aren't effective

Tom Newton Dunn@tnewtondunn

New:
The Grieve/Beckett bid to turn off Govt's money supply under a No Deal Brexit fails after Bercow refused to accept their amendment.

That's the second failed attempt by the Commons to stop No Deal in a month.

TatianaLarina · 01/07/2019 22:50

My theory is that this is the Hunt strategy: blithely promise Armageddon and then hope that everyone starts yelling at you not to push the button.

Problem with this is, if true, it’s a totally irresponsible way to govern or attempt to govern a country.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/07/2019 22:57

Chris Cook@xtophercook

Sensible Jeremy Hunt’s plan is replacing capable experts with less talented non-experts

and asking the Irish govt to agree to something that will definitely lead to an acute, party-destroying crisis in Dublin.

Mistigri · 01/07/2019 23:01

Problem with this is, if true, it’s a totally irresponsible way to govern or attempt to govern a country.

We haven't had a serious, responsible government since at least 2015.

But yes, I entirely agree.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/07/2019 23:06

Christopher Cook on the leadership contest

Westminstenders: Long live liberalism
Icantreachthepretzels · 01/07/2019 23:11

So who is going on the next anti brexit march? 20th July

I'm going - and the one in October too.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/07/2019 23:13

Merkel's successor as CDU party leader counters Putin's attack on liberal values:

A. Kramp-Karrenbauer@akk

30 years ago the Berlin Wall came down.

To those who cynically say today that liberal democracy would be „obsolete“,
I reply:

liberal democracy, human rights, freedom of the press, and the rule of law were the right way, are the right way, and will be the right way.

#HC19

HesterThrale · 01/07/2019 23:22

Yep I’ll be marching on the 20th.

Love a good march. Always so good-natured and cheering.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/07/2019 23:29

John Gace: 😂 / 😰

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/01/everyman-plastic-politician-jeremy-hunt-mutates-into-kamikaze-kurtz

We are now in an apocalyptic, Heart of Darkness Brexit death spiral
in which both Hunt and Boris Johnson are competing to see who is sufficiently deranged to lead the Tory party.

tobee · 02/07/2019 02:25

To keep myself sane I will be mostly watching old films on Talking Pictures tv, Classic Eastenders (it's 1989 currently and Frank and Pat run the Vic) and listen to investigative podcasts. Smile

Looking forward to seeing you lot on the July march. Smile

borntobequiet · 02/07/2019 05:45

I’m coping by having a late-mid-life crisis. I bought a sporty car, and am thinking about other manifestations of such a state of mind.
The July march is being organised by Best for Britain, a new one to me. I’ll go but hope the resistance isn’t being split.

bellinisurge · 02/07/2019 06:17

Dd has a school trip in early spring 2020. In EU country. I was looking at the admin bumf we have just received. It asked for her EHIC number- I chuckled ruefully to myself "that cost of trip figure they gave us will probably have to be amended upwards to include some post-Brexit health insurance figure ". Or , as my dh commented "maybe we will still be in the EU" because despite the bluster, we will have begged for and received, another extension. Or we'll have signed a deal and it will be part of a transition arrangement.
Or not.... I think I will get a year's travel health insurance quote for my dd - we will all be in Ireland on 31 October so we'll need something anyway.

borntobequiet · 02/07/2019 08:07

Farming Today - Are Jeremy Hunt's plans for farming and fishing subsidies after a no-deal Brexit even legal?
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006dq6

BlueEyeshadow · 02/07/2019 09:29

I noticed a lot more "ifs" in the BBC reporting of new MEPs starting in Strasbourg this morning - "might be" for only 4 months, "if" we leave on "the new deadline" etc...

1tisILeClerc · 02/07/2019 09:42

{Are Jeremy Hunt's plans for farming and fishing subsidies after a no-deal Brexit even legal?}
Not listened to the article but if the UK is out of the EU then it can subsidise farming and fisheries but quotas for fish I presume come under international agreements whether EU or 'worldwide'.
Out of the EU the farmers can change practices to UK wide 'standards' but exporting they will have to conform to standards of the EU or whichever destination of course. Just a bit more red tape to be dealt with.

lonelyplanetmum · 02/07/2019 09:49

Thanks Born I'm going to listen to the are subsidies legal broadcast- but anyway how long are the subsidies for? Just to manage a staggered decline or permanent?

borntobequiet · 02/07/2019 10:04

The person interviewed said that specific subsidies for businesses directly affected would actually be breaking WTO rules.

TheElementsSong · 02/07/2019 10:16

Just awful. We’re just an awful country now. I’m just so ashamed.

twitter.com/jamesmatesitv/status/1145968706939445248?s=21

Brexit Party MEPs turn their backs in European Anthem at opening session of European Parliament

bellinisurge · 02/07/2019 10:20

The Brexit Party MEPs will be shortly losing the nice little earner they have been so concerned about on our behalf. And their friends won't be getting any pensions because, apparently, we don't need to pay our debts.
What a shower of wankstains.

Ellie56 · 02/07/2019 10:40

Brexit Party MEPs turn their backs in European Anthem at opening session of European Parliament

How disgraceful and disrespectful. Maybe we should all go to the next Brexit Party rally and all turn our backs when Nigel Twat Farage starts spouting his crap. Angry

1tisILeClerc · 02/07/2019 10:47

The photo of the Nazi party doing the same in the Reichstag is interesting.

I feel a bit sick at seeing these MEPs.
Incorrect, VERY sick.

Peregrina · 02/07/2019 10:49

The photo of the Nazi party doing the same in the Reichstag is interesting.

On for Led by Donkeys - two pictures side by side. Which is the Nazi and which the Brexit party?

lonelyplanetmum · 02/07/2019 11:20

This actually made me cry today.
I rarely cry... about once every 2 to 3 years perhaps.

I am so beyond ashamed of this country.

These Faragist people drawing fat salaries yet behaving like this. Turning their backs on our neighbours -yet fawning over Donald Trump.

I am so ashamed. I was dithering about the next march due to busyness. But now I think we will go.

Westminstenders: Long live liberalism