Leavers rejoice

[Coppersulphate]

The Brexit Party are doing really well in the polls. I just hope they do as well in the election.
I think their slogan should be "Tell them again".
I would like to see a clean sweep of Brexiteers but I know that is not going to happen.
I have sent off my postal vote.

I'm thinking there's a lot of hysteria going on stirred up by farridge who hopes to continue trousering an MEP salary while slating the hand that feeds him

No wriggling here. If you want to mess with the GFA non-border to save face, good luck to you.
Brexit hasn't happened because of Brexit MPs.

Well, good for you, those who exercised your democratic right to vote and didn't believe the promises on the bus. A lot of people must have done, perfectly legitimately IMO because it's something most of us value. It doesn't alter the fact that neither of the two main parties managed to win, although Labour did do significantly better than most polls predicted.

I think the Brexit party is probably mopping up votes from Tory, Labour and UKIP. It's so hard to tell - at the last General Election it would have appeared that Labour would be slaughtered yet they picked up a good few seats. At the local elections, the scale of the Tory meltdown was worse than predicted and the Labour smaller meltdown was missed in predictions.

the people want to Leave

I'm a person, and I don't.

NF would only have been about 14/15 at the time

Is he only 54?

Fuck he's had a hard life

@ fuck he's had a hard life
Yep sure has like spending his MEP salary on fags booze and divorce settlements but hey good job he's got that EU pension to tide him over in his dotage

Or he's not worn well. All that booze & fags, and a lack of excercise, I expect.

Now if he had walked all the way from Sunderland to London, I think he would have struggled in the first few days, but then would have got fitter and finished in much better form.

Apparently Nigel Farage was 55 last month.

Peregrina
And the boy in the photo looks as though he is about 14 or 15.

Or he could be 22. Funny that nobody in the media has said that it's Nigel Farage or none of his old school friends have recognised him - does nobody read the Guardian these days?

Clarinova,
Nobody reads the guardian. It is too Remain focussed and left wing for me.

It doesn’t seem that the Brexit Party are taking the Conservative/Labour vote.

I'm usually a Conservative voter - quite a few callers to radio stations in the SouthEast area seem to be switching from Conservative/Labour to the Brexit Party for the EU elections.

Scardinella,
"People" is the collective noun for a group of persons/ individuals. Just like "flock" is the collective noun for sheep.
It does not include all persons just a group of them.

Coppersulphate
It is too Remain focussed and left wing for me.

I don't choose to read it either - but all anti-Brexit links lead to the Guardian.

"People" is the collective noun for a group of persons/ individuals. Just like "flock" is the collective noun for sheep.
It does not include all persons just a group of them.

So true, so true. Such a shame that you added the definite article in your original post and forgot to add a qualifier.

@DontMakeMeShushYou, you said it for me.

FWIW (which isn't much), I have staunchly voted Conservative for 30 years. However, I will now only be voting for a party which is clearly in favour of remaining in the EU.

Where does it say Brexiteers want to privatise the NHS?

Errrr actions speak louder than words. Look at Farage's belief system.

People who are fans of the Faragit party should look at the evidence.

1.	Nige has (when pushed) said private <span class="italic">insurance</span> should take the burden off the NHS. [When pushed further he said the line of questioning was “really very boring”. So our healthcare is boring to him.]

2.	This great statesman is besties with Aaron Banks who would profit vastly from more private health <span class="italic">insurance</span>. 
3.	He has also fawned  his way into the pockets of Trump and USA multimillionaires Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon. All of whom would profit from US corporation dominance  of  British healthcare. 
4.	Faragit has had a direct role in pushing people to vote to remove EU workers from the country and the NHS. This has meant the NHS is  51,000 nursing staff short by the time we leave.

All right wing politicians embrace saving money by shrinking healthcare for all.

Anyone who thinks Faragit wants the NHS isn’t watching or listening.

Your choice to trust a man who shifted from promising 'Norway-type' deals to no-deal. Trust him by all means but do it with your eyes open.

Don’t be surprised if he also shifts to a US type survival of the richest healthcare system.

Dear me @Coppersulphate . Being snippy with Clavinova ? They are on your side. Or at least they are likely to vote for Brexit Party. Not sure they would sink to spouting "Rejoice " though. Only the chosen few go for that lark.

It does not include all persons just a group of them.

Yet strangely when I posted something about Leavers, a couple jumped in to say 'I didn't....'

Where does it say Brexiteers want to privatise the NHS?

Errrr actions speak louder than words. Look at Farage's belief system.

People who are fans of the Faragit party should look at the evidence.

1.	Nige has (when pushed) admitted private <span class="italic">insurance</span> should take the burden off the NHS. [When pushed further he said the line of questioning was “really very boring”. So our healthcare is boring to him.]

2.	This great statesman is besties with Aaron Banks who would profit vastly from more private health <span class="italic">insurance</span>. 
3.	NF  has also fawned  his way into the pockets of Trump and USA multimillionaires Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon. All of whom would profit hugely from US corporations dominating provision  of  British healthcare. 
4.	Faragit has had a direct role in pushing people to vote to remove EU workers from the country, and the NHS. This has meant the NHS will be c51,000 nursing staff short by the time we leave. Loss of staff is bringing about the shrinking of healthcare by stealth without the govt actively having to do anything. 

All right wing politicians embrace saving money by shrinking public healthcare.

Anyone who thinks Faragit wants the NHS to survive isn’t watching or listening.

It's anyone's choice to trust a man who lied Point blank about Turkey joining the EU. Trust a man whose children are entitled to EU passports but wants to remove that right for others.Trust a man who scurries off after a car accident injuring a toddler.

It's anyone's choice to trust a man who shifted from promising 'Norway-type' deals to no-deal. Trust him by all means but do it with your eyes open.

Don’t be surprised if he also embraces a US type survival of the richest healthcare system.

That might well be the case, clavinova. But UKIP is over. It’s gone from being the biggest party at the last election to polling at 3%. And unless they’ve all started voting green/lib dem or change, it’s because Nigel’s basically renamed them the brexit party and they’ve followed him over.

I’m not sure a party led by farage getting the biggest vote share isn’t going to be news unless something big happens with the turnout or it’s very obvious that a significant proportion of the conservative vote share has gone to them.

It's the same old message as the Leave referendum campaign...democracy, sovereignty, let's get our country back, immigration and of course faceless EU bureaucrats are responsible for everything wrong with the country. Playing on people's unhappiness with the status quo and fears that they have been betrayed and let by the government. Lots of parallels with the Trump campaign...Make America Great Again, America First, Drain the Swamp, Build a Wall. Simple messages that fire people up and make them feel like they are being listened to - do we really want our own Trump?

And Leave MPs in Remain constituencies, like Rees-Mogg, are perfectly happy to ignore their constituents.

There are two parliamentary constituencies in Bath and North East Somerset - Bath (who have a Lib Dem MP, majority of 5,694 in 2017) voted Remain in 2016 - North East Somerset (Rees-Mogg, majority of 10,235 in 2017) voted Leave.

We don't know how constituents would vote in a second referendum.

Where does it say Brexiteers want to privatise the NHS?

Disaster Capitalism was/is literally the point of Brexit.

I was looking to see if there was a Conservative party European Election Manifesto for 2019 but I could only find the 2014 one.

I know David Cameron wanted to stay in the EU - but he's really not selling the concept well in his introduction:

"I vetoed a treaty that was not in Britain’s interests."
^"We cut the EU budget for the first time in its history, saving British
taxpayers billions of pounds.Where Labour weakly signed us up for
Eurozone bail-outs, we got Britain out."^
^"We stood up to Europe on a financial transactions tax that would
have hurt our economy.We protected our rebate–whereas Labour gave £7 billion away."^

We will fight for
● Powers flowing away from Brussels, not to it, and cutting the cost of EU administration.
● National parliaments able to work together to block unwanted European legislation.
● Businesses liberated from red tape...
● Free movement to take up work, not a freedom to move just for more generous benefits.
● Support for the continued enlargement of the EU to new members, but with new mechanisms in place to prevent vast migrations across the continent...

Nigel Farage got his EU referendum ideas from David Cameron's Manifesto!

My son turned 18 last year and is looking forward to voting in the EP elections. And it won't be for the Turquoise Big Arrow Party.

However, while he is pro-EU, he's ambivalent about Revoke as he sees it as Scotland's best chance to achieve independence sooner rather than later

Don't think the Turquoise Party is going to get much traction in Scotland - although it might unfortunately get 1 out of the 6 MEPs (to replace the single, execrable Purple Party MEP who sneaked in as the only elected representative for his awful party in any capacity before or since in Scotland because of the collapse of the LibDem vote ). Here's hoping that the turn out of pro-Europeans (whether SNP, Green or LibDem) put the kibbosh on that

Nigel Farage got his EU referendum ideas from David Cameron's Manifesto!

Most probably. They are incredibly good at that. I think it was the 2015 manifesto that had a range of policies that would have appealed to voters right across the spectrum and taken votes off every party, including the greens. That part of their PR isn’t an issue.

The big problem for them is that they’re UKIP and their candidates tend to be an absolute clusterfuck who don’t seem to able to avoid getting into some sort of racist/homophobic/misogynistic scandal on a weekly basis.