Leavers rejoice

[Coppersulphate]

The Brexit Party are doing really well in the polls. I just hope they do as well in the election.
I think their slogan should be "Tell them again".
I would like to see a clean sweep of Brexiteers but I know that is not going to happen.
I have sent off my postal vote.

{Simon Boyd, managing director of Dorset-based structural steel company Reid Steel, reckons that if the UK was free of EU rules and allowed to prop up ailing companies with state subsidies like the pre-Thatcherite old days, then none of this would have happened.}

So how come the Germans can manage?

If a company can't make a profit then it should be closed (free market view). The fact that it has not reacted and changed over the years while steel production elsewhere has overshadowed it is down to poor management. China has (apparently) produced more steel in 2 years than the UK has made in 150 years. Investing in the UK 20, 30 years ago to specialise more MIGHT have saved it. UK governments selling steel production in the past for a 'quick profit' rather than nurturing what would always be a restricted activity.

I remember the pre-Thatcher era. Much as I hate her, British Industry was not pretty. You are concerned about flabbiness on the EU gravy train. Ain't nothing compared to the British industrial landscape back before Thatcher.

Structural steel boss blames EU for British Steel collapse

Given that this company has made donations to BrexitCentral, Global Britain and Business for Britain, I’ll be viewing their Eurosceptic views with a healthy dose of salt.

@SunnyInGrimsby - isn't Sunny in Scunnie though is it? lol!

Nothing to stop the UK Govt from nationalising british steel if they wanted too, Govt bailed them out a few weeks ago, without concern for eu membership!
Bottom line is now they don't want too..... in or out of the EU, its lost ts export orders due to brexit, they are lost forever.
People like you are responsible for the collapse of B/Steel which was doing just fine pre brexit.

bellinisurge

I remember the pre-Thatcher era. Much as I hate her, British Industry was not pretty. You are concerned about flabbiness on the EU gravy train. Ain't nothing compared to the British industrial landscape back before Thatcher“.

This. (Rubbish on the streets, bodies not being buried, electricity for a few hours a day and British Rail services were pretty crap too).

Ah yes, the three day week under Heath, I recall.

Yes, it is looking very good. I too have been out canvassing today. Some staunch Tories and Labour voters have voted For the Brexit Party.

Suckers voting for the Brexit Party Ltd.

No manifesto. Only a fool would give a politician a blank cheque.

Very good news for this second or is that third? Brexit referendum, looks like the people have spoken again. And this time they are SHOUTING, we voted to fcuking LEAVE. Just do it already.

My guess is we will be properly out by October.

"I too have been out canvassing today. "

So you are a political activist. I hope your canvassing skills outweigh your childish triumphalism online. If you canvassed near me the way you talk to people online I'd laugh at you.

As I've said, I live in a strong Leave area. I asked at the polling booth about turnout and the person said Very Low. This was around 7 pm. They said our ward was a bit higher than others (they kept in touch with each other about this) but still Very Low.

Sounds like only nerds like us voted today. Hardly a popular groundswell on either side.

walking

It’d be four...cos apparently some idiots (mainly politicians) seemed to think the GE of 2017 was a rerun of the referendum as well

Turnout looking low though. Especially in Leave areas.

So even if Farage’s lot get 30% of the vote, it’s only going to be around 10% of the electorate.

{Very good news for this second or is that third? Brexit referendum, }

The election held yesterday (in the UK) is to select MEPs to stand in Brussels in the new session of the EU parliament and has bugger all to do with the referendum.
If you are rejoicing about leaving, yesterdays election is totally irrelevant as the MEPs selected will not be going to Brussels.
No wonder there is such a mess if 'leavers' can't understand this simple fact.

No wonder there is such a mess if 'leavers' can't understand this simple fact

Thats not a fair comment

Media has been fucking full of rerun shit, mumsnet has been full of ‘get out and vote because its being treated as a referendum rerun’

I suspect that walking knows exactly what this election is about...in the same way i do. But it has been run in terms of ‘tell them what you feel about the EU’

{Thats not a fair comment }

Of course it is fair. If I ask 'would you like tea, or coffee' and you reply 'I prefer to walk' that is the same sort of reply.
If you don't ask the right question you will not get a valid answer.

The fact that politicians and much of the media are STILL telling lies and promising things that can't happen is as you say not helping.

EU investment in UK road (as roads mentioned upthread)
Intelligent Transport Services for road (ITS): 4 projects totalling €17,269,037
ec.europa.eu/transport/facts-fundings/scoreboard/countries/united-kingdom/investments-infrastructure_en

So even if Farage’s lot get 30% of the vote, it’s only going to be around 10% of the electorate.

But even so, this will be an ovewhelming victory for Leave. Like the local elections - it was either "it's about local issues, not Brexit", then when the scale of the thrashing of the major parties came in, it was a sign that "people want to get on with Brexit."

I would hope that the one thing this election shows is that both major parties have lost public trust and need to get themselves sorted out big time if they want a future. Another thing it might show is that people weren't all that fussed about the EU anyway.

Apparently there is a suggestion that Scunthorpe could be altered and used for recycling of steel. Why has it taken so long to even start these thoughts?

{But even so, this will be an ovewhelming victory for Leave.}

The EP elections yesterday were to select 73? people to represent the UK who if we leave will then will instantly become redundant.

1tis, I know - I am just trying to anticipate the spin which will be put on it.

walkingdead "properly out" by October? Are you deluded? It will take years even if we "leave" tomorrow. It's comments like that which make me despair at the widespread ignorance of what "leaving" means.

Mind you, I have reached the point of accepting that I'm alright Jack as are my DCs, so the leave voters can just suffer in the pending maelstrom of shit that they have so ignorantly and blindly wanted.

They’ll spin low turnout in Leave areas as “voters staying at home to show their disgust for MPs”

Coppersulphate

“And yes, there are many people who,support Brexit who do not support the Brexit party.of course there are. There are those who support UKIP. And many, many others.”

Very difficult to read intent sometimes, but your comment seems to be suggesting that supporting UKIP is somehow more acceptable!

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The weirdest thing is that 'leavers' seem to think that leaving, say 31 October, with no deal is the end of things. It is only the start.
Legally many things should stop instantly, such as no flights or ferry crossings on November 1st. It is only be the generosity of the EU that they have said that a restricted 'service' can continue.
It is the same as your car insurance expiring. If you drive the day after your policy expires and have a crash, you are not covered.
This is why Farage, and indeed many other politicians with NO PLAN are such a danger.
Assuming the UK leaves on 31 Oct, and UK negotiators go to Brussels to discuss important things such as food trade, without a plan, what are they going to ask for?