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A bill has been passed to prevent no deal brexit

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StealthPolarBear · 09/04/2019 11:14

I would have thought would have been the lead story on the bbc news, and in fact would have popped up on breaking news. I can't find it anywhere on there. In fact they're still reporting no deal will happen on Friday in the absence of anything else.
I am so confused, can anyone explain this to me?

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StealthPolarBear · 10/04/2019 19:01

On a lighter note, are there uniforms for this? Men in black with black ties, women in royal blue.

A bill has been passed to prevent no deal brexit
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NoWordForFluffy · 10/04/2019 22:04

Maybe the men in black can use their neuralizers and wipe Brexit from everyone's memories!

StealthPolarBear · 11/04/2019 06:01

There's a shock. EU will not approve an extension unless the UK has a plan. We'll they just did. We'll have more of this crap for the next six months. We'll be told no deal is off the table, and that no deal is what happens if we don't agree an extension by October. I am utterly sick of this crap.

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StealthPolarBear · 11/04/2019 06:02

The 31st will be a hailed as a key day in British politics. I suspect it will go by like many of these that have been so far, with more confusion and another extension

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Bluntness100 · 11/04/2019 06:21

To be fair she has said if she can't agree a deal with Corbyn she will move to binding indicative votes in the house. I strongly suspect the real reason the delay is only for six months is because they believe this course of action will occur and a deal will go through, or a second referendum.

Personally I'm pig sick of all the hysteria and scare mongering about no deal. It's been off the table for weeks now. Months even. I've personally been posting on here it's off thr table for that long. But the hysteria continues, in the media, from some politicians, on line. It's beyond ludicrous.

StealthPolarBear · 11/04/2019 06:39

Didn't she also say she would no longer lead any further negotiations (ie she would resign)?

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SneakyGremlins · 11/04/2019 06:42

I can't see her resigning.

Bojoshatface · 11/04/2019 06:43

Of course it isn't off the table bluntness, if parliament doesn't pass a deal and the government refuses to revoke it is the legal default.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/04/2019 09:37

Exactly, @Bojoshatface (great name, BTW!).

No deal cannot be taken off the table as it's the legal default. People claiming that it IS off the table are the ones who are legally and factually wrong.

Bluntness100 · 11/04/2019 09:41

Sigh, I think it doesn't matter how unlikely it is, one in several billion, some people will still cling to the technicality that no deal is possible rather than take a reasonable approach.

Yes technically we could leave with no deal. Will we. No absolutely not. That's a given. It's been a given for weeks.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/04/2019 18:54

One in several billion? Try telling the bookies that: www.oddschecker.com/politics/brexit/no-deal-brexit

StealthPolarBear · 12/04/2019 06:37

I'm guessing it's all going to go very quiet now until mid October.

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Bluntness100 · 12/04/2019 06:47

I think it will go very quiet for a few weeks, then pick up if either a deal is agreed with labour, or, more likely, when it goes to binding indicative votes in the house.

SneakyGremlins · 12/04/2019 06:49

Is it a good thing if it goes quiet though?

noblegiraffe · 12/04/2019 09:39

If it has been a given for ages that no deal was off the table, why is it only now that Operation Brock is being dismantled, that civil servants are stopping working on no deal and returning to their own departments. If it wasn’t a possibility, why has billions been spent preparing for it?

Bluntness100 · 12/04/2019 09:54

It's a good question, I think as the government was trying to keep it on thr table figuaritively as a way to force their deal through and to worry thr eu enough to think we might actually do it.

The only thing there is no doubt about is it was purely politics.

StealthPolarBear · 12/04/2019 10:19

By go quiet I mean they'll not see any urgency. Until mid October. Then we'll panic and ask for another extension.

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NoWordForFluffy · 12/04/2019 10:29

I think they will get back to it after the Easter break. It's what they do at that point which is going to be interesting.

There's only so long the talks with Labour can go on before they decide whether they're futile.

It did sound like TM was sending the MPs away like naughty children to think about what they'd done, however, as if they'll decide that the WA is the correct way forward while they're off!

StealthPolarBear · 12/04/2019 10:57

Back to the bickering and procrastination after Easter :)

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StealthPolarBear · 14/04/2019 21:04

Golfer wins golf thing shock

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The80sweregreat · 15/04/2019 15:28

I always check teletext on the TV on BBC 1 first thing in the mornings to see whats been going on overnight and the B word didn't come up at all today. I know they are on their break now, but usually there is something on the news.
I also tuned into LBC on the weekend and they had a guest on there who more or less said that brexit is ' on its way out' whatever that meant! Not sure if he was being serious or not, but didnt sound like a joke! He just said that ' talks' will go on for ages yet and is just a smokescreen to keep it all looking like its relevant when its not.
TM is now away on a break - i think the whole thing will slowly fizzle out - even the Mail is just having a pop at David Lammy but not really saying much either, the comments are still vile as usual, but thats just a few hardcore leavers.
Its all gone quiet for now.

RiotAndAlarum · 16/04/2019 18:31

It's not as though the government can just ignore it, though! Donald Tusk was quite right to say, "Do not waste this time," because there's no doubt that must be a temptation!

However, a period if reflection may be what the government needs. People don't make good decisions when they're living on stress and coffee!

StealthPolarBear · 17/04/2019 08:15

I think the problem is that they're not making decisions. Nothing is happening, we just enter different scenarios to further delay the making of an actual decision

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1tisILeClerc · 17/04/2019 08:41

A couple of things have to happen.
Unless the UK revokes A50 the WA as it stands HAS to be signed before the EU will start any negotiations.
They may well make 'pleasant noises' about whatever plans Theresa and Corbyn might come up with, but until the WA is signed nothing will be done by the EU. The UK put itself in the position of being 'dictated to' by the EU through it's own stupidity, and the HoC/HoL/cabinet have to understand this. The direction the UK takes AFTER the WA is signed is up to the UK. Even a 'crash out, no deal' will STILL have to have the same, existing WA signed off if the UK wants to trade at all with the EU.
The EU have been saying this since early November, how long can it take to get this fact into the skulls of the HoL and cabinet?
All this dancing around handbags is just a distraction and not addressing the real issue that the WA has to be signed

StealthPolarBear · 28/04/2019 17:22

"StealthPolarBear

I'm guessing it's all going to go very quiet now until mid October."
So far so true. What happened to the EU only agreeing an extension if we had a plan? Does anyone know what the plan is? Have the government forgotten this is happening?

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