Is revoke possible at the moment? What do you think?

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Just that

Nope.

9 more months of can-kicking, however, and who knows?

I wish...

I'm not convinced they would just revoke. Another referendum is more likely than just a revoke.

I don't think they will revoke. I'm hoping they will cobble together a plan and put it to another vote. I hope then that the plan will be rejected in favour of remain.

There was a very promising bi election in Wales yesterday. A Labour remain MP got in, taking over from a Tory MP. The government will see that as a warning and won't hold a GE now.

The trouble is Corbyn. He wants to be out of Europe, but most of his MPs want to remain. He needs to be telling TM that whatever they come up with now, it has to be put to the people to decide, with an option to remain. He doesn't want to do that.

I'd love a good old timer remain Labour prime minister and a revoke please.

Sadly not HollowTalk - Newport West is a Labour safe seat - by-election was held following the death of Paul Flynn - former shadow secretary for Wales in Corbyn’s shadow cabinet. They in fact decreased their majority quite significantly and UKIP share increased. Overall still a majority though, yes. Even more frightening is that the UKIP candidate was Neil flipping Hamilton.

Was just coming on to say the same thing about Newport. The UKIP increase is worrying

Hollow If you mean the Newport West by-election, Ruth Jones retained her seat. She didn't win it from a Tory; she already held it. She is openly pro-Remain, however, so it's great that she held on, given that it was a majority leave voting constituency. The turnout was poor, but I do think her win is an indicator that people are having pause for thought.

OP, I'd prefer revoke to a confirmatory referendum, but think it's looking more likely that we'll get the latter.

I don't think it's at all likely. I think it was more likely when it was unknown if we'd be given extensions (and this could come to a revoke or No Deal situation) but now I think it's likely we'll get more extensions. I hope for a 2nd referendum on any deal.

Agree Corbyn is a problem. A lot of people just cannot see him as PM (myself included, I've often voted Labour but will probably go SNP next time) and he is at heart a leaver.

Good to see lib dem, plaid Cymru and the green's votes up though as all are remain parties

Her win might cause labour to believe they don’t necessarily have to back leave to hold on to their core vote in ex industrial areas tho.

Another Referendum with Leave removed from the choices is the most probable outcome now. Be careful what you wish for if Brexit is stopped then I and millions like me have lost our right to vote. How long will you keep your right to vote in the new regime? Democracy as we know it is over.

How can there be a referendum with out Leave as an option? What would the options be? Plain revoke or revoke plus change our currency to the euro?

Why would leave be removed from the choices, sheldon?
Leave without a deal should, IMO, not be an option because of the damage it would do, but you don't really think that leave wouldn't be an option at all, do you? If Leave with no deal was to be included, impact assessments would have to be published openly, although some people would no doubt still dismiss these as Project Fear or claim that we don't need 'experts'.
Why do you think 'democracy is over'?

@twofingerstoEverything Sorry, I must have misunderstood. I thought she'd taken over from a Tory.

Be careful what you wish for if Brexit is stopped then I and millions like me have lost our right to vote. How long will you keep your right to vote in the new regime? Democracy as we know it is over.

Rubbish. Many of us will have the chance to vote in Local Elections in just under 4 weeks time. Depending on what May manages to cook up, we may well have the opportunity to vote in the Euro elections which will be on 23rd May. I haven't yet heard that there won't be a General Election in 2022, although this might happen sooner.

The turn out in both Local and EU elections is piss poor, to put it crudely, but don't bleat about losing democratic rights if you are one of those who just can't be bothered to exercise your right.

John Curtice was on BBC2 this lunchtime. The significance of the Newport vote was what did not happen. Labour's vote did not collapse, and a Remain candidate won in a Labour Leave area. Turnout will always be down on a wet Thursday in April.

No sign of a Brexit Backlash.

@InfiniteSheldon

Even if you are correct & there is no no-deal option on the ballot paper and remain win, then at the next GE you and millions like you can vote for the Brexit/Ukip parties and get a brexit Govt, all within the next 2 years!

We are not back in 1934 and the Night of the Long Knives, where you never be able to vote again.

I added up the votes for Remain and Brexit parties in Newport West. I think the Remain parties took 57% of the turnout. When you consider that Newport voted only 44% for Remain in the Referendum that's a big swing to Remain. It ought to show the Labour party that they won't be wiped out if they follow their members' wishes and go full Remain. It also shows that the smaller parties would do well to form electoral pacts if we do go to a general election, to avoid splitting the vote.

Nope.

TM won't do it.

Keeping the ERG within the party fold is more important than the country and the economy. The people voted for pain remember.

No. And who in their right mind would want it!!

Absolutely not.

Revoke is legally possible. Our parliament can revoke article 50 unilaterally and may well do so if the impasse continues right down to the wire and MPs have to chose between leaving with no deal and revoking so we remain in the EU on our present good terms.

Legally it's possible.
I can't see it happening in all honesty.

Whilst the EU would love us to stay I think (hope) we will leave in one form or another.

The Conservative party would be obliterated if TM revokes.

The Conservative party would be obliterated if TM revokes.
TBF I think it would be obliterated if it went for a no-deal Brexit, too, because despite the Leave propaganda, no-deal would be ruinous. I also think Labour is in a lose-lose situation. It probably serves them all right,