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Westminstenders: The Bill Cash Appreciation Society

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RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:30

We've had a new thread pretty much everyday for the last week or so, so I'm short on inspiration.

There haven't been too many new developments today. There have been two ministerial resignations. Both were ministers close to Boris Johnson.

We had a vote to add an extension if we still have no deal agreed at the end of next week to the Withdrawal Bill. May has said she will do this anyway; this would merely tie her hands. It passed by 5 votes. It now is fast tracked to the committee stage and third reading.

A business of the house amendment by Benn to secure a debate and Indicative Vote 3 next week failed after a speakers vote. Bercow followed convention and didn't create a majority where there was not one (though under Erskine May he is free to do the opposite at his discretion).

Corbyn has met May for talks which have been described as construction, though we have no further details though curiously Emily Thornberry put out a statement demanding a ref on whatever was decided which suggests Corbyn isn't keen on the idea. Rumours are of Schrodingers Customs Union: somehow being in a union but not a union. It can't be called a customs union. And Liam Fox has said Corbyn can't have his union. Though he may have a vested interest as he loses his job if Corbyn gets his way.

Oh and the Commons photocopier broke so no one knows what is currently supposed to be happening.

Otherwise it's been a quiet day, all things considered. Too quiet?

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Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 21:06

I mean this kindly, I really do. But are these MP’s required to pass any medical checks before they are allowed to take up their positions?

AutumnCrow · 03/04/2019 21:09

Bill Cash going to try to filibuster. Deputy Speaker Dame Eleanor Laing I think just confirmed he can?

GaspodeWonderCat · 03/04/2019 21:09

Stewart McDonald MP
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@StewartMcDonald
I tweeted earlier criticising @johnmcdonnellMP and @EmilyThornberry for ‘abstaining’ on a tight and crucial vote. I shouldn’t have done so. Emily was with her kid in hospital and John was himself in hospital. I didn’t know. I’m deeply sorry to both. I wish them both my very best.

Guardian live @ 21:06

horseshit · 03/04/2019 21:10

He’s filibustering to prevent 3rd reading.

MissMalice · 03/04/2019 21:11

Blatant filibustering.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 03/04/2019 21:11

That’s what I thought BigChoc. Main was banging on about sticking in a date of the 22nd of May which the EU have repeatedly told us is acceptable to them. But there’s no way on earth that the EU are going to agree to that date if the WA hasn’t been passed, there’s no plan for going forward and the plans for taking part in the EU elections haven’t been put in place. It was a date for an extension to get all the legislation through if the WA had been passed.

Cash is going on and on.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 21:13

I mean this kindly, I really do. But are these MP’s required to pass any medical checks before they are allowed to take up their positions?

Have a pulse is generally the only requirement. Having a mental health illness used to be a bar to becoming an MP but isn't the case now.

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user1471429825 · 03/04/2019 21:14

Big Re Bill Cash there is a Bill Cash JR too he’s a Kipper stood in our constituency a few years ago so don’t worry when he’s gone there’s a ready made replacement in the wings as there alway seems to be with a certain type of Tory MP.

horseshit · 03/04/2019 21:14

Labour MP Jess Phillips says there is "enough pressure" on and "will" from her party's front bench to push for a confirmatory referendum.

She told BBC News that while trust is "very low across the board" in Westminster, it would be "a massive stretch" for Jeremy Corbyn not to put it forward.

She adds: "His own position would be threatened it is what the party wants.

"He isn’t foolish enough not to put that forward."

BBC News

Holidayshopping · 03/04/2019 21:15

Where are all the MPs?!

It’s like the pub once last orders has been rung-a few wiffly people rambling about bollocks to no audience!

lonelyplanetmum · 03/04/2019 21:17

Don't understand... why can't time limits be put on speakers? Is filibustering allowed as it's a committee stage?

Justanothermile · 03/04/2019 21:19

Place marking. Went out for a run and we three hundred posts (including the last thread) on.

Thank you for the explanation of Shrodinger CU (or not). That was a previous thread ago, but thanks.

Seeingadistance · 03/04/2019 21:19

Bill's the only one doing any talking, so not much point in anyone else being there!

Apart from someone who is not actually Alan Brown!

tobee · 03/04/2019 21:20

It shouldn't be allowed unless by Jimmy Stewart as is an arcane and frankly ridiculous thing. I'm sure someone will tell me in a minute why it's an important part of our democracy etc etc.

PreppaPig · 03/04/2019 21:20

My 5yr old thinks Bill Cash is called "Sir William Cash uurghhh" because I groan every time he is called!

Also, Anne Main looks like the type of neighbour that would always be moaning about your kids playing outside.

CordeliaEarhart · 03/04/2019 21:21

At last he's shut up!

EweSurname · 03/04/2019 21:22

Nick Boles MP
@NickBoles
I am no longer a member of the Conservative Party. So I can be blunt where previously I might have been discreet. The PM’s head of communications Robbie Gibb is a hard Brexiter who wants to destroy the PM’s new search for a cross party compromise.

The media should be honest about the briefings they receive from that quarter. And the Prime Minister would do well to tell Mr Gibb to get back in his box - or go back to the BBC.

HazardGhost · 03/04/2019 21:23

Nick is out to spill some tea....

Unescorted · 03/04/2019 21:23

Thankfully he has finished

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 21:25

Nick Boles MP @nickboles
I am no longer a member of the Conservative Party. So I can be blunt where previously I might have been discreet. The PM’s head of communications Robbie Gibb is a hard Brexiter who wants to destroy the PM’s new search for a cross party compromise.

The media should be honest about the briefings they receive from that quarter. And the Prime Minister would do well to tell Mr Gibb to get back in his box - or go back to the BBC.

This is a controversial tweet. Not because of the accusation as such but because Gibb does not have freedom to defend himself. Much like Olly Robbins and Mark Sedwill

But wow nick Boles is bitter!

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CordeliaEarhart · 03/04/2019 21:25

Shock Boles is happy to burn his bridges then.

Unescorted · 03/04/2019 21:26

Unfortunately if they stay on topic and don't hesitate or repeat themselves they can keep going.

HazardGhost · 03/04/2019 21:26

More Nick MORE! Relieve yourself of burdens I want all the beans.

tobee · 03/04/2019 21:28

Iirc Robbie Gibb was, according to Brexitcast, the man behind TM's Downing Street statement where she slagged of all the MPs. The incompetent arse.

MissMalice · 03/04/2019 21:28

Unfortunately if they stay on topic and don't hesitate or repeat themselves they can keep going.

However, if they choose to, they can find the longest way possible, the lengthiest way available to them, to make the point about the subject which they are discussing, if that is what they want to do, and to be clear, that is what they are wanting to do