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Westminstenders: The Bill Cash Appreciation Society

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RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:30

We've had a new thread pretty much everyday for the last week or so, so I'm short on inspiration.

There haven't been too many new developments today. There have been two ministerial resignations. Both were ministers close to Boris Johnson.

We had a vote to add an extension if we still have no deal agreed at the end of next week to the Withdrawal Bill. May has said she will do this anyway; this would merely tie her hands. It passed by 5 votes. It now is fast tracked to the committee stage and third reading.

A business of the house amendment by Benn to secure a debate and Indicative Vote 3 next week failed after a speakers vote. Bercow followed convention and didn't create a majority where there was not one (though under Erskine May he is free to do the opposite at his discretion).

Corbyn has met May for talks which have been described as construction, though we have no further details though curiously Emily Thornberry put out a statement demanding a ref on whatever was decided which suggests Corbyn isn't keen on the idea. Rumours are of Schrodingers Customs Union: somehow being in a union but not a union. It can't be called a customs union. And Liam Fox has said Corbyn can't have his union. Though he may have a vested interest as he loses his job if Corbyn gets his way.

Oh and the Commons photocopier broke so no one knows what is currently supposed to be happening.

Otherwise it's been a quiet day, all things considered. Too quiet?

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lonelyplanetmum · 03/04/2019 20:23

Errr I'm watching Parliamentary live - refreshing the thread and putting DD to bed. How on Earth did this thread get over 120 before I could PMK?

NoWordForFluffy · 03/04/2019 20:23

I've had ZERO push notifications from the BBC News app throughout this evening. It's almost like nothing is happening.

Where are we up to? I'm watching Baptiste as light relief from Brexit.

Holidayshopping · 03/04/2019 20:24

I thought we could only have an extension past next Friday if the WA was agreed??

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 20:26

Full name 2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney

I know I go on sometimes or have opinions different to others but there is no need to send me troll PMS and insult me. If anyone on here has a problem with what I say then say it openly on this thread so I can defend myself.

Littlespaces · 03/04/2019 20:26

Seeing as I can do sod all to save my country or my family, I have turned my attention to the C of Arms problem should Scotland ever so rightly dump us.

I have solved it.

I give to you the Coat of Arms of Wessex.

Westminstenders: The Bill Cash Appreciation Society
MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 20:27

We only get the extension to the extension if Parliament votes for the WA, as is, nothing added and nothing taken away.

The plan (for want of a better word) is to vote for the WA then write something into the bill that enacts the WA in the UK to make it say 'Customs Union' or whatever.

TalkinPaece · 03/04/2019 20:27

Brexit has been the definition on unpreparedness
DH put this on his FB this week
www.facebook.com/Channel4NewsDemocracy/videos/1256585151086092/?v=1256585151086092
Tie up your camel, THEN trust in your god

HazardGhost · 03/04/2019 20:27

@runningintothesunset thank you. Will have to get my thinking cap on and pick a subject...or two I could combine that at least comes across logical and not scatty Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 20:27

The Cooper bill was a brave attempt to rule out No Deal
However, it depends on the EU agreeing an extension - taking back control again !

A better method would have been to say that the WA passes if we are 3 days away from No Deal
However, that amendment wouldd not have passed

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 20:28

The Cooper bill was a brave attempt to rule out No Deal
However, it depends on the EU agreeing an extension - taking back control again !

A better method would have been to say that the WA passes if we are 3 days away from No Deal
However, that amendment wouldd not have passed

Camomila · 03/04/2019 20:28

I finally understand how people get 'into' football now. DH and I have been watching all the voting like sports fans do, complete with 'ooohs' and snacks.

DSs whole life has been Brexity Sad I remember being up doing a few month olds night feed with him and seeing the results and just crying.

MelanieCheeks · 03/04/2019 20:29

Think you RtB, will propose you for knighthood when I get a chance!

Welcome back TiP, you were missed [unmumsnettyhug]

My MP is sir Jeffrey donaldson, give me strength.

Before Brexit I had no problems sleeping.....

Quintella · 03/04/2019 20:29

Sadly Brexit is a bit too much like the Old Firm at the mo.

woman19 · 03/04/2019 20:30

^these hardcore Remain fanatics will deserve a bit of blame too
It's like deliberately blocking the fire brigade after some nutter has set fire to a block of flats^

We can't remove No Deal. It is the legal default.

We can only move the political power base towards Remain/Soft Brexit
As in FOM/HR.

PV is the artillery.

We don't necessarily want to use it.

hardcore Remain fanatics
Thornberry?

EweSurname · 03/04/2019 20:30

woman Oh I hope so!

Horehound · 03/04/2019 20:30

But the EU wouldn't want to say no because then they will be blamed for No deal.
So it's pretty lonely now no deal is off the table imo.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 20:31

@sostenueto ShockShock
I sometimes disagree with what you post, but I'll defend to the death your right to do so

  • and the right of anyone else, Leaver or Remainer, who posts their genuine pov, within MN rules
dreichuplands · 03/04/2019 20:31

sos I have just seen that poster pop up on another thread and was a bit taken aback by what they were saying. I think I see a trend!

There must be lots of good coats of arms available.

vanitythynameisnotwoman · 03/04/2019 20:31

Ah, didn't realise it was the committee issue - I thought I'd seen the other Deputy Speaker in the big chair the other day.

In hospital with a child is a totally different issue (and crazy that it has to be cleared.) - will there be matching/proxy voting for the likes of Luciana? I know there usually is but there have been loads of votes today. She must be 1 out of the 11 votes not cast earlier.

Violetparis · 03/04/2019 20:33

safetylights thanks for clarifying about Emily Thornberry.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 20:34

woman We can remove no Deal, by choosing the WA or Revoke instead, but neither would pass

So instead, Cooper gave it her best shot with requiring May to request an extension - which at least has a chance of being granted

The Remainer Ultras are trying to remove even that chance

Also, they have been voting down any other amendment except their own
I want cross-party cooperation, not fanaticism

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 20:36

Sorry I know this is unsisterly but that is just too much animal print on one person.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 20:37

Brexit has become like Wimbledon in this house.
My friends and family know that when Wimbledon is on I am out of action and glued to the tv. Emails go unanswered, Housework goes undone, children go feral, husband gets neglected.

Looks around the house suspiciously and reminds silent.

Tbf I've got what ever DS had last week atm. I've been in bed with about 5 blankets on me. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

John McDonnell also abstained on the Speaker's vote amendment as he was having an MRI scan.

www.channel4.com/news/labours-john-healey-talks-less-productive-than-expected
Labour’s John Healey: ‘Talks less productive than expected’

You expected something? That was optimistic!

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woman19 · 03/04/2019 20:37

The Remainer Ultras are trying to remove even that chance
Who, in power, are you talking about here?

Horehound · 03/04/2019 20:37

We can remove no Deal, by choosing the WA or Revoke instead, but neither would pass why not?

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