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Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?

506 replies

Shookethtothecore · 22/03/2019 19:13

I promise I won’t ask you anymore questions or it turn into a slanging match, you are untitled to your opinion.
I don’t know anyone of my friends who voted leave, the odd acquaintance who voted leave “because they didn’t really understand” but the people I am friendly with all seem to be remianers. We are in our 30s and to teaching, sales and banking type jobs. Dh is a solicitor and all do law in one form.
I was wondering if certain sectors voted leave generally and if what you did for a living influenced your leave vote, and if you could possibly explain why the leave vote would benefit your sector. I am not here to judge at all just trying to understand

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Rainbunny · 23/03/2019 13:16

My mum voted leave, basically a mix of wishing we could turn the clock back to the 60's/70's when she thought the UK was better (what she doesn't realise is the main difference between the golden past and the terrible now is simply that she was younger and more optimistic about life. There were plenty of bad things happening then that she now conveniently doesn't remember. Her other motivation, a healthy dose of racism that she tries to hide but can't always - she complains about people not speaking English when she's out and about.

She's a retired local government officer. She does say now that she would have voted remain if she'd known about the Irish border problem.

AdvancedAvoider · 23/03/2019 13:18

The only real life people I know who voted leave are ones who've never ventured far from the village and still have several generations of family still living in the same village as them or a village or two away.

Creamwhite · 23/03/2019 13:20

Those I know:

Unemployed (registered disabled)
Retired civil servant
Unemployed
Unemployed
Retired (died at the age of 90 2 weeks later)
Teacher (said afterwards she didn't really get it)

Frodon · 23/03/2019 13:33

People I know who voted leave are -

Engineer
Pilot
Teacher x 5
RAF squadron leader
Business owner

CarolDanvers · 23/03/2019 13:35

The people I know who voted leave are all retired pensioners.

cinders15 · 23/03/2019 14:17

NHS
Our healthcare is on its knees because of migrants - who do not contribute to NHS - coming over here deliberately to access our welfare and health schemes
I have witnessed so many coming here for a specific operation (or having babies) because our services are free st the point if delivery.

YeOldeTrout · 23/03/2019 14:39

FullFact refutes what Cinders15 wrote about (baby-popping) migrants bringing NHS to its knees.

Old people, home-grown ones, are the most expensive users of NHS (source = NHSEngland & Guardian screenshot).

Young migrants, provider workers in the NHS & pay taxes that fund pensions for the oldies.

Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?
Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?
Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?
woodhill · 23/03/2019 15:20

@MeowthThatsRight

How can the fishing/dredging issue be ok for Belgian/Netherlands boats but not the UK's, makes no sense

woodhill · 23/03/2019 15:29

I'm sure Cinders must have seen this at close range to comment?

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mellongoose · 23/03/2019 15:41

But as a group, they were less educated than (as a group) Remain voters were

Most voters I know (on both sides of the debate) do not vote as a group! Most are individuals who are free thinkers and capable of making their own minds up.

Also, thankfully, I have encountered people who can openly admit to each other that they disagree with each other and can debate this issue sensibly! There is no right or wrong. Just because we voted differently doesn't make one of us 'better' than the other! Confused

mellongoose · 23/03/2019 15:44

Sorry! Bold fail on the first sentence.

nicecheese · 23/03/2019 15:49

My in-laws are both retired and they voted leave. The only other person who I have spoken to who voted leave was a washing machine repair man who voted leave because of the NHS funding buses.

cinders15 · 23/03/2019 15:50

Thank you woodhill

Rainbunny · 23/03/2019 15:51

cinders15 - Healthcare tourism is a problem that costs hundreds of millions to the NHS I agree and needs to be better prevented but the vast majority of health tourists come from outside the EU. London health trusts all report the majority of abuse of NHS services is from Indian and Pakistani citizens so leaving the EU won't do anything to help with that.

Likewise some of the higher profile cases that make the press don't involve EU citizens:"£320,000 for a Nigerian woman undergoing a complex childbirth procedure at the Imperial College Hospital Trust, another £60,500 for an American receiving HIV support in the Shrewsbury and Telford NHS Trust, and £61,600 for hernia treatment on an Egyptian at Kingston Hospital." The truth is that the vast majority of EU citizens receive equal if not better healthcare at home and don't need to come to the UK to abuse NHS services.

The reason why it is so easy to abuse NHS services is because we are one of the few developed nations who do not have an ID card system linking healthcare and other government benefits. Likewise we are an attractive destination for migrants because it's so easy to exist under the radar here and work in our thriving black market. I think we're idiots for not introducing such a system, I know the government started but then scrapped the ID card program for cost reasons but if we are losing so much money through fraud and lost tax income and acting as a magnet for illegal immigration then we can't afford not to. Again, nothing to do with the EU, as always it's our government's lack of action.

YeOldeTrout · 23/03/2019 15:51

I can't speak for all on this thread, just want to reiterate that I never said anyone was a more valuable human being b/c of how they voted in 2016.

I said that the evidence is that one side's voters had more (better) education than the other. OP was wondering about personality differences (as a group), and whether that had bearing in how they chose their vote. This branched into other aspects of life experiences that tend to characterise each side's voters. If some posters want to attribute unpleasant motives to OP or me than get on with it. Enjoy your paranoia. I give up on people who prefer their conspiracy theories over evidence.

Colleague (with many degrees & private education background; her kids went to posh private school, too) said in December 2015 that she would vote Leave to "give the establishment a kicking". I haven't bothered to ask what was her actual vote choice. No value in falling out. She's said things since that sound like exasperation with Project Fear. I had never heard of 'give the establishment a kicking' as a vote reason before that. Naive me. Does it really mean "Make everyone suffer so I don't feel so lonely with my own problems" ? I'm not chuffed that vote reason turns out to be "The Will of the People" that must be obeyed.

nocoolnamesleft · 23/03/2019 15:55

I know quite a few nurses who voted leave, and stated they did so for more money for the NHS (like on the side of the bus). They expressed surprise that within weeks of our area voting leave, several EU doctors left their posts, leaving the department severely understaffed, as they didn't feel welcome.

PlainJane74 · 23/03/2019 15:55

Father was a builder, mother a nurse. I’m a consultant, my brother is a builder and sister an office worker.
My auntie works in a bank and my uncle is a general manager. My two cousins are nurses.
We all voted leave.
We didn’t vote leave for people who voted remain to kick up a fuss and ruin any chance we may or may not have had of leaving the EU successfully.
We voted for change; in the laws in which our country is run (i.e. not European laws). We voted for tighter immigration requirements into the uk and paying less money into the European Union.
In my opinion, the people that are marching now and signing this ridiculous petition are sabotaging our children’s futures because they didn’t get what they wanted.
Of course we weee all dupes, are we all that naieve to believe that any politician will ever tell the full truth and nothing but the truth about their motives? I certainly don’t.
Meaningful vote? So what was the referendum (and all of “leavers” views)? Meaningless?
The protesters and the MPs are playing party politics, social media crazed games and should take a step back to think about what they are actually going to achieve in reality.

woodhill · 23/03/2019 16:03

Agree Rainbunny, so it's about time we get tougher with those from overseas who are abusing it.

Lumisade · 23/03/2019 16:10

People I know who voted leave:

lecturer
dentist
teacher
retired minister (since passed away very sadly)
retired
retired

MrsFogi · 23/03/2019 16:13

The ones I know are:

  • retired x (about) 40
  • nearly retired back office manager in banking (to get control of our country back)
IamFrauBlucher · 23/03/2019 16:13

Remainer but leavers I know of:

Female:
Conveyancing solicitor
Dr in Oncology research
Nurse in NHS
Housewife
Dental receptionist (and massive Farage supporter)

Male:
Environment officer
Agricultural Engineer
Pub manager

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 23/03/2019 16:31

its not about abuse of the nhs, it’s about use of the nhs. Net migration being so high, from anywhere in the world causes strain on resources- an open door policy is a bad policy

Chlo1674 · 23/03/2019 17:43

So going by a lot of the posts on hear a lot of the people who voted leave are from an educated background given the sort of jobs that they do which kind of blows the assumption that ‘most leave voters are thick’ out of the water.

Chlo1674 · 23/03/2019 17:43

Oh dear I wrote hear instead of here. I must be thick then!

HateIsNotGood · 23/03/2019 17:45

Rainbunny I so completely, absolutely agree with you. ID cards would have solved, can still solve, many, many 'issues' regarding 'entitlement' to public services and state benefits, as well as being a formally recognized ID that isn't a passport or driving licence.

Anyway, Leave or Remain, I think ID Cards would be a very good idea.