Out of interest, if you voted leave what do you do for a living?

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I promise I won’t ask you anymore questions or it turn into a slanging match, you are untitled to your opinion.
I don’t know anyone of my friends who voted leave, the odd acquaintance who voted leave “because they didn’t really understand” but the people I am friendly with all seem to be remianers. We are in our 30s and to teaching, sales and banking type jobs. Dh is a solicitor and all do law in one form.
I was wondering if certain sectors voted leave generally and if what you did for a living influenced your leave vote, and if you could possibly explain why the leave vote would benefit your sector. I am not here to judge at all just trying to understand

Educated or not everyone over the voting age is entitled to vote how they choose.

Annacommen but older people went to night school and polytechnic colleges and gained qualifications that are now obtained at a university doing a three year degree at a university that used to be a polytechnic

@pizza no one on this thread is disagreeing with you.

I voted remain but I wished I voted leave.

@lablablab do you mind me asking why this is?

I voted remain but I wished I voted leave.

@lablablab do you mind me asking why this is?

countries who may potentially join in the future...??

As some people’s feelings about countries potentially joining in the far distant future were mentioned here are some facts.

Normal people can't be expected to know the actual position... but politicians do and should know. They really should. This makes their rhetoric either incompetent or deeply dishonest.

Here are some facts to suggest Farage and co told overt lies about this. (What a surprise.)
• The countries mentioned are decades (if not centuries) away. They are only in a technical 'application' list.
• For any country to be eligible for accession there are 35 complex chapters to complete.

•	For example Turkey first applied to join in 1987. <span class="italic">Three</span> decades later by 2016 only <strong>one</strong> of the 35 chapters was completed! 
•	The UK had (past tense) an absolute right of veto as do other individual countries. 
•	Even Cameron stated that some of the countries mentioned might be able to join by the year <strong>3</strong>000 at the earliest - that's 980 years away!

(The impossibility of progress on normalising bilateral relations with the Cyprus and human rights in Turkey are one of the very many insurmountable obstacles.)

Further details here- bluster about other countries joining was scaremongering. A real project fear.

actualfactssnotfeelz

Well for me it was the terrible situation in Greece a couple of years ago. I felt the Greek people had no support during the dire economic downturn and it was distressing to watch while people couldn’t access their money or afford to feed themselves.

@PigonStilts why do you think that’s the case?

If it’s to do with studying and working abroad, I had non EU friends working and studying alongside me in European countries. They just had to fill in one form - same with non EU DH who has lived and working in more European countries than me.

I know a solicitor voted leave as I do many teacher and my brother is a PHD and voted leave. I voted leave and I'm in the hairdressers going/beauty industry I know remainers get uptight so I pretend I voted remain to them.

My parents were of the generation who had no opportunity to go to university. In fact, as they lived in a deprived inner city area, they had no opportunity to even do O Levels. Their school didn't offer them.

They are by no means stupid, and keep themselves up to date with current affairs. What they lack, however, is critical thinking skills. They have little ability to sift information sources for bias, weigh up the relevant worth of sources based on credibility, etc. They are content to get most of their information from the Daily Mail, and are unable or unwilling to grasp that it is a biased source that is pushing an agenda. They wouldn't think to check what is reported there against other sources. They wouldn't think to pause and wonder why a person was promoting a certain idea, and who might benefit from that idea. They just seize on any information or opinion that chimes with the view they already hold, and the thought process stops there. As their world view is constantly pandered to, and rarely challenged, their views gradually become more entrenched over time.

That is why those who didn't have the benefit of higher education (often through no fault of their own) may find it difficult to objectively weigh up different sources of information to come to a considered view. It is very hard to develop critical thinking skills if you have never been taught them. Given the complexity of Brexit, where even experts are unsure of what will happen, placing such a decision in the hands of the common person was utterly ridiculous.

The two people I know who voted leave (there's bound to be others but these are the only two I know for definite) are both retired. My in laws. Very much a bone of contention as all of their sons and daughters in law (me being one) are Remainers.

Oh, and my parents are both retired and voted Remain.

@tolles your last comment is spot on; it was way to much of a complex political and economical vote that it should never have gone to the public as it did. I will never forgive Cameron

I am a staunch remainer but keen to understand why people voted leave

Leavers I know
Vet (red tape)
Gardener (no idea)
Business owner (red tape)
Food distribution manager (farming?)
Book keeper (farming too)
Barrister (and his wife) (sovereignty)
Fibre comms manager (protest - mortified now)
Housewife (rabid UKIP supporter)
Housewife
Small business owner
Retiree

3/4 of friends voted Remain though.

To both posters who said the vote was far to complex for it to go to the public, just who do you think votes in politicians and who is going to be affected? So we should just accept that we have no say in our future? Wow, just wow!

No not at all. But the magnitude of the vote could of been broken up. For example the in or out vote. Done. Then a soft leave party, a hard leave party and a further vote for which option. The vote was based on very little fact and evidence and it was clear there was no plan. How can we negotiate effectively when no one is clear what the nation wants Brexit to look like. It was too big for a yes or no, it should of been broken down then negotiated from that point

Wow, just wow!

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Are you telling me that you and all the other voters had enough unbiased information to make an informed decision, then?

Despite the infamous bus, the 'easiest deal in history' guff, the scaremongering over Turkey, and all expert opinion being dismissed as 'Project Fear'?

How do you work that out, then?

If we have another vote on the likely deal, we will need this time to ensure that all claims are fact-checked by an independent body. I have written as such to my MP. The last referendum was fraudulent. That on top of a lack of understanding amongst the general public made the vote extremely ill-advised. I stand by that.

@tolles I stand with you, I have absolutely no issue in leaving, but with a olan and based on facts

Exactly, shook, it's one thing to take an informed decision. Throwing yourself blindly off a cliff like lemmings, however, is extremely ill-advised.

I have no ill feeling towards leavers, people I love are leavers. I have tried to understand, I tried at the time and I’ve tried since. I can hear good points on both side, I agree with people on both sides but I don’t know what’s true and who has the closest idea to what I would like?! I think that’s the crux of it. If it was any other issue in planning or work or family life of whatever I am at the point where I would say “hold on start again what we doing? Let’s start again” because it’s just too messy and mixed up: I’m ok with leave being the decision again, I just need to understand it clearer and make an actual plan which I can’t see how we will get now

The people I know who voted leave

student, 19 years old on a level 2 course, wanted to 'get rid of all the foreigners'

heating engineer - boss told them to vote leave because they wouldn't have competition from companies with strong EU links like N Power.

retired - voted for the common market but believes EU is undemocratic and MEPs have nothing to do with law making.

Nail tech - wanted business back, she is also looking forward to a no deal Brexit, it will be great apparently.

And by clearer I mean truthfully. I need to understand the facts that are true

Tolleshunt there will always be people who vote for, and people who vote against. You are saying that people who haven’t been to university lack critical thinking skills and that that the skill can only be taught. So you don’t think life experience can teach critical thinking skills? It is indeed a complex subject. I personally disagree with Macron having a shoot to kill policy on the French protesters at the weekend. I believe in the right to protest. Doesn’t mean I support Paris being destroyed by protestors. There are many things that make me uneasy especially the was the EU treated the Greek people.

Leaver here . Police officer.

Friends who voted leave
1 hairdresser
1 deputy head teacher
1 teacher

Many many other police officers/detectives I know also voted leave.

If democracy is over ruled I will not vote again .
I vote labour.

I agree that (without any notion of what a deal/no deal would mean in real terms) then we the public should not have been able to decide. Considering 3 years later a deal has not been agreed and politicians are on record saying they didnt realise this that or the other about leaving, then i think it was almost impossible to make a properly informed decision. I had quite a few leave leaflets through the door and a letter from my mp (supporting brexit) explaining how we would be better off out of europe. Remain sent a poster saying vote remain, tell ypur friends to vote remain.....without giving any reasons why!!