Revoke Article 50 petition 2

[MrPan]

Finished the last thread, here's a replacement...

4,780,481

4,786,492

4,795,152

It’s slowing down a bit.
Theresa May needs to give a speech to get it spinning again.

Interesting stats showing the authentic domestic nature of the majority of signatories. The small percentage of signatories overseas is consistent with Brits living elsewhere.

stats~on the~revoke~petition-

4,804,226

@lonelyplanetmum - thanks for sharing these stats

Several points on this misleading petition you gloaters are getting so excited about.
No verification is made that the signatory is on the electoral register (you know the one that says you are an eligible voter) so any %age quoted of signers against constituency population is absolutely meaningless.
Are you ignoring the fact that children and those not on the electoral register can have email addresses (easy to get more than one)
Anyone can use any postcode even if they do not live there
When there is a petition that checks more than the email address I would believe it is constitutionally and politically valid.
If children and those not on the electoral register are permitted to sign it makes the whole petition null and void.
Biased media again trumpeting this as some kind of influential 'vote'

There is no point being angry about it. The petition merely shows that brexit, and no deal, is not the "will of the people"

And any one pretending it is should stop. When the referendum was held just over a third of British adults on the electoral role voted for it. Two thirds did no such thing, they either did not vote or voted against it.

The "will of the people" has never been to leave the eu. It was simply the will of 17.4 million people. It was not the will of thr other thirty odd million.

@17million literally no one has tried to claim that the petition is any kind of a vote. Leavers have come up with that through their own twisted logic.

17million no one is claiming this is a vote. A petition by its nature is just an expression of opinion.

You may believe it's likely that boys/multiple signings/lots of young kids are skewing the figures but you don't know that.

I believe it's an indication that people have realised after nearly 3 years of not managing to achieve anything, we have been sold a dud. The tide is turning.

What is wrong with pressing the pause button, then the parties can fight the election on a detailed plan of what kind of Brexit we will have?

We are in the worst world of heading unprepared towards no deal.

Let's stop and think about this. It's completely undemocratic to insist that because we voted once, we are now stuck with a situation that nobody said would happen and is definitely not what the majority want.

We know all of that 17. No one is calling it a vote. It’s an expression of an opinion which as you can see resonates with a lot of people. Like yesterday’s March, It is doing what it needs to do, which is showing politicians that Brexit is not clear cut ‘the Will of the people.

@Epanoui thanks for the link. I have emailed PM.

Some info from the petitions website...

4,810,076

Thanks little pickle, that was interesting.

For anyone who wants to see the individual constituencies

www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/241584

And a fresh link to the petition so you don't need to go searching

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

I suspect they can monitor the IP addresses as well. To sign more than once you would have to make an email address, sign the petition, click the verification link for the first time. For the second and subsequent times you would need to either use a new internet link in a different location (eg go to your local library) make a new email account, sign the petition, click the verification link - and repeat.

That is impressive even for a bot, especially as they would have to hack another organisations' IP address each an every time. Otherwise a suspicious pattern would turn up.

Next it will be said that the march yesterday was all holograms and those few sad and lonely people who turned up were zapped with an undetectable mind control machine to make them believe they were in London with loads of other people.

The Bremoaners, methinks they do protest too much, particularly when their own "No Deal" petition has in the same period nearly double its support to around 10% of the Revoke petition.

It's not a vote, or a poll, or a referendum, and children stand to be most affected by the consequences of leaving and have as much right to an opinion as anyone.

This writer for Forbes (global media/business magazine based in America) signed the petition three days ago as Cliff Piffy and Dingle Wigglesworth to test it out.

www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2019/03/21/anti-brexit-petition-in-u-k-parliament-can-be-signed-by-anyone-anywhere/#6c487616fa51

Cliff Piffy and Dingle Wigglesworth added their names to the list of nearly one million people who signed a late-night petition on the U.K. Parliament’s website asking for the government to scrap Brexit and remain in the European Union.

The only problem with the red-hot petition, which garnered tens of thousands of signatories per minute as early as 2:00 A.M. in London is that both people do not exist.

Both names were signed into the system last night from the East Coast of the United States and not from the U.K. In other words, anyone from any country could have signed this petition.

A petition is not an election.

A petition gives no power. That is why the rules are not as strict.

A petition indicates public opinion. A petition is a way to influence change.

No one is saying 6 million people signed the petition so we should revoke.

The point is the petition, the march, the strength of public feeling, the total and utter mess that Parliament is in should make politicians pause and think.

If the public is so clearly split is it not time to ask the question in a way that can not be tampered with? Why not have a referendum?

Interesting how it's London south east signing.

The leave constituencies are still leave by that trend.

Back in the day when I signed it was just over a million so well done UK so far!

Methinks the hard leavers are scared of another vote which is why they try to downplay everything

1970s, strong in
2016, weak out
2019? The decider?

Interesting how it's London south east signing.

Isn't that where a large percentage of EU citizens live? They can sign the petition as well can't they? Up to 400,000 French citizens in and around London/South East + EU students at London universities.

The petition was on the front page of the BBC website yesterday which must have helped quite a bit, unfortunately it isn't now.

Even if a percentage signing the petition are not on the electoral register that have the right to an opinion.

MPs work in the best interests of their constituents not their electorate.

There are many people in the country who can't vote - should they be ignored? These people pay taxes and contribute to society.

A petition is not legally binding (like referenda actually) but they indicate strength of feeling. Don't judge a petition on the same basis as an election. It is not an election, it is a way to influence power not to have and control power.