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Revoke Article 50 petition 2

588 replies

MrPan · 22/03/2019 16:13

Finished the last thread, here's a replacement...

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PenguinBlizzard · 23/03/2019 22:48

4,731,551

NigellasGuest · 23/03/2019 22:53

Might be 5 million by the time I wake up!

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:13

4,743,924

It would be more newsworthy if it had broken another barrier. I suspect that one day is all it will get though until it can be linked to something else.

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:15

4,745,934 very similar pattern of numbers

Apileofballyhoo · 23/03/2019 23:17

Just short of 4.75 now. Did a quick count so this might be slightly off but 167 Con MPs have over 6000 signatures in their constituencies. 6000-8000 is 81. 8000-10000 is 51. Over 10000 is 35.

That's a lot of potential voters. I really hope they are paying close attention.

Apileofballyhoo · 23/03/2019 23:20

And Belfast has changed to a darker colour on the map. Smile

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:22

It is updating more often than every half hour now.

The petition watching website has added colour coded parties and the majority of each MP. Quite s few of the MP s have a majority smaller than the number of votes in their constituency.

Food for thought I would imagine.

PhilomenaButterfly · 23/03/2019 23:23

Signed 😆

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:24

4,750,115;

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:26

That is interesting ballyhoo. Taking note indeed.

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:36

Updating every five minutes. The rate is dropping off as it gets later. It may reach 5 million by morning, not in time for the Sunday papers though.

brizzlemint · 23/03/2019 23:39

Do you have the link to the petition watching website please?

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:41

www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/241584

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:42

Tis the first time I have linked on the phone.

Someone posted it further up the thread, so thanks to them really.

Jboure · 23/03/2019 23:50

To be honest, 5 million is not that impressive. It's less than 10 percent of the population? So the other 90 percent are going with the flow and letting their elected representatives make their decisions.

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:50

30%of Jeremy Corbyn's constituency have signed

24% of Vince Cable's

25% of Chuka Umunna's

14% of Theresa May's

brizzlemint · 23/03/2019 23:53

that's an interesting link, thanks.

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/03/2019 23:56

It is no where near the 17.4 million who voted for Brexit, thus easy to dismiss overall, but significant in some constituencies, where the number of signatures is far greater than an MPs majority.

They will need to compare the numbers of signatures on the no deal Brexit petition, and the percentage vote in the second referendum of June 2017, if you count the first as being sometime in the seventies...

Epanoui · 24/03/2019 00:00

Don't know if others have seen this, but if you want to email Theresa May to express your feelings, you can do so here: email.number10.gov.uk/

It would be amazing if we can get a real deluge of emails, perhaps as many as on the petition, or as many as there were marchers.

BlackeyedGruesome · 24/03/2019 00:03

As many as marchers, that would be significant and make them think.

PickleFish · 24/03/2019 00:07

the one that lists by constituency gives quite different %s than the map one does - the voting numbers are the same, but the number of constituents in very different, so they're obviously not measuring the same thing. I think the one with the ordered list says % of voters, whereas the one on the map says % of constituents, which is much larger. Either the ordered list is based on the number of people who actually voted, or perhaps the number on the electoral roll, whereas the one on the map might be the population included in that MPs area, whether eligible to vote or not, or some sort of difference like that.

prettybird · 24/03/2019 00:19

Constituents are not the same as the electorate Hmm. By definition, the number of constituents will be larger than the number on the electoral register as it will include, for example, children Confused

MPs have a duty to represent the best interests (since we are a representative democracy - and they are not delegates) of ALL their constituents, including children, those that didn't vote for them - and even those that choose (for whatever reason) not to be on the electoral register.

PickleFish · 24/03/2019 00:22

yes, my point was that the various percentage figures are being calculated on different things, so it's harder to compare the ones from different sites to see if they've changed or not - you have to make sure you are using one that does it in the same way. i was surprised to read figures of 30%, as the map one wasn't showing anything nearly that high, but I think it's calculating based on constituents and the other one is based on electorate, or possibly based on actual voters in the referendum; it doesn't specify.

Apileofballyhoo · 24/03/2019 00:58

The one with the signatures and the majorities makes for interesting reading. Thanks for that link. I had an older version, just MP and party.

BlackeyedGruesome · 24/03/2019 01:09

4,777,295

When it comes to Brexit, I get the impression that MPs are not representing what is best for their constituents and the mix of leavers and remainers, but thinking of those who voted leave and fulfilling their wish whatever the consequences. There should be a compromise over Brexit, finding a middle way given the closeness of the results, finding things for both leavers and remainers in what they negotiate or vote for. More so as the leavers vote would cover a variety of wishes from hard Brexit to soft, to a protest vote, to not sure really.