Westminstenders: Flextension

[RedToothBrush]

Just wrote an intro and wiped it. So this is as quick as I can sum up.

EU response is extension to 22nd May if May passes her deal by 29th March

Or an unconditional extension to 12 April which could be extended with a plan and understanding to take part in EU elections.

This isn't what may wanted. It gives her less time and leverage

It opens up the possibility of her being ousted as PM in the next couple of days. Graham Brady asked her to quit on Monday. Remain Cabinet ministers are threatening to quit if May whips a vote to support no deal.

The talk is May has indeed flipped to supporting no deal with many think she's pretty much gone full on Colonel Kurtz.

The EU are in effect supporting parliamentary sovereignty and are being incredibly reasonable.

May now has to decide whether to accept.

The whole situation looks explosive and likely that one half of the cabinet or the other are on the brink of walking. And May's power is so shattered.

However she remains the gatekeeper and as it stands if she's hell bent on no deal, it will be extremely difficult for Parliament to prevent that.

Another concern about the indicative votes - in addition to some options being impossible / unacceptable to the EU -
is that
MPs may vote against each one in turn !

Probably no option is favourite of a majority, so most MPs would vote against every option except the one they want

Suggestion:
MPs should use the STV (Single transferable Vote) system instead of Yes / No to each option

The HoC already uses STV - AND iirc in a secret ballot - for the Speaker
Why not for this too ?

@BigChocFrenzy

I read some commentary (can't remember which) that a knockout system was being mooted as a means to pick a winner with the indicative votes. No idea how accurate this is though.

There is, incidentally, absolutely no mechanism allowing backbenchers to introduce and pass SIs

From the state broadcaster article above. I think he says an SI is necessary to holding EP elections, but can anyone here confirm that an SI is not required to move the date of automatic leaving the EU? I really want to believe No Deal won't happen but don't trust TM as far as I can throw her so want to be sure that backbenchers can move the date if necessary.

oubliette, sorry to hear about your neighbour. Hopefully nothing too serious.

Just confronted a leaver friend with their kryptonite facts.

She was posting saying the revoke petition was rubbish as she'd seen reports it was full of Russian and North Korean bots.

I said I'd be very surprised since Russia supports Brexit.

So I went on the petition site and followed the link to look at the numbers behind it. It shows votes for each country...did a quick tally and about 59k votes from outside the UK. Mainly from EU states (France, Spain, Italy) and Canada, Australia. So places you'd expect British ex-pats and travellers to be. Even if 50% of them aren't expats or travellers it still only accounts for a measly 30k votes out of 3.7M.

Facts for the win!

Seive I read that the idea was for a series of votes with the least popular being knicked out each round
BUT that May was pushing for Y/N votes on each, for speed & simplicity / to bugger them all

I voted from Germany
Misti did from France

The petition site always allows British citizens overseas to vote for a petition
We just select "British citizen" in the first pulldown
and our "country of residence" in the next
Then postcode in that country

All legit

More calls for May to “fall on her sword” after pulling MV3

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/22/theresa-may-brexit-deal-mps-eu-no-deal

One moderate Conservative who backed May’s deal predicted the prime minister would be gone within a month. Another MP said the party would “now do almost anything to get rid of her … If Labour called a confidence vote, it would be very interesting”.

The MP for Clacton, Giles Watling, who had backed the deal, said its success “might require the PM to fall on her sword to get it through”.

I voted fro France too, as you described.
Disappointed only the UK was on the website linked earlier, can someone link to a word map site please.

{The MP for Clacton, Giles Watling, who had backed the deal, said its success “might require the PM to fall on her sword to get it through”.}

Stampede of volunteers wishing to hold the sword steady.

Cordelia An SI seems essential, to alter the 29 March date of Brexit, to either 22 May or 12 April

Currently, the ECA (European Communities Act) 1972, which makes all EU law binding,
is scheduled to be repealed on 29 March.

If the ECA were to be repealed, EU law would no longer apply and hence we would have left the EU

The SI would only take about 90 minutes, but would take some days before it would apply.
Hence I heard Monday is the last possible day for this SI

I have done everything I can possibly do.
Blocked pop ups, checked all other settings and deleted cache which means I have lost all my saved passwords.
It hasn’t got rid of virgin.

wood Did you delete all history in Settings == Safari and then Reboot ?

Bigchoc I heard that too from my mum
Not a social media person

Oh fuck I pressed the advert by mistake ... 3 mins later gets to POST

Deleted all history. Reset my password. Blocked pop ups. Still getting the bastard Virgin Media one.

and rebooted ?

Wood, I've a thread in Site Stuff about it. I've cleared history and restarted. It's now worse than ever. Ad blocked is on too.

I voted from Spain and know a lot of others who did too. My brother voted from Ireland.

Well, my placard is crap but it'll do :)

I've set my alarm and will pack my rucksack later.

Can't see a map but can see list f geographical votes here

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584.json

@Wheresmymojo do you mind if I copy those figures for a fucktard on a local page posting shit about it being bots signing? I've been called a snowflake etc.. Its proper brexit bingo!

I can’t get rid of the supposed BT pop ups either. Seem to be triggered by clicking on this thread???

Will go to look in site stuff ... if I can get there...

LeClerc There's only a UK map, no world map but you can see the breakdown by country on this link...

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584.json

See above, youcant. The link is from the bottom of the petition page.

@Youcantscaremeihavechildren

Go ahead!