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Westminstenders: Screaming at the TV.

917 replies

RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 16:16

Theresa May has asked for a short extension until 30th June, after Cabinet Brexiteers stopped her asking for a longer extension.

She has not stated the purpose of the extension beyond 'to pass her deal'. Which does not have a majority, because if it did May would be overturn the standing order Bercow invoked to block MVIII.

The EU have not reacted well to the request. Noises from France sound negative.

That doesn't mean we won't get one, but its not looking good. If we do it looks unlikely to go beyond May 23rd and EU elections.

We do not expect a response from the EU until Monday.

May has therefore in practice reinstated the possibility of no deal next Friday. Or at the end of any extension we do get.

She is due to give a speech on a podum at 6pm tonight.

Parliament has called an emergency debate on the extension to try and take control of debate. It, so far, looks like no more that the Brexit Secretary filibusting. Its going round and round in circles going no where.

Meanwhile rumours that Operation Yellowhammer will kick in on Monday are in the air. That's the first steps to martial law to manage no deal. This is very bad.

9 days to go.

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WaterQuarter · 20/03/2019 20:50

Dominic grieve is another evil looking conservative

He's one of the few Tories I can look at without wanting to hiss and spit.

CordeliaEarhart · 20/03/2019 20:51

HoC is gonna go nuts at her. How dare she blame them for not saying what they do want when she has spent years refusing to discuss HER red lines with anyone? She went in to every negotiation with rules and objectives that she never bothered to check that HoC actually agreed with.

cherin · 20/03/2019 20:51

Ok. So she had one chance to do something meaningful in live TV, and what she did is that she looked like a pathetic, angry and vendicative woman. Not good, on multiple, innumerable levels. Did she send any message between the lines, in a code, that we missed because we were already seething for the patronising opening?

pepinana · 20/03/2019 20:51

Fuck off blaming MPs for "failing to make a decision". They did make a decision love. They rejected your deal. TWICE.

cherin · 20/03/2019 20:53

She’s not going to revoke!

CordeliaEarhart · 20/03/2019 20:53

And claiming MPs left it til the last minute?! She pulled the vote 3 months ago because MPs were so fucking clear that they hated her Deal!

Is there any mechanism by which MPs can insist on an emergency session to actually hold indicative votes?

cherin · 20/03/2019 20:54

That’s for sure the last thing she’d do. Not on her deathbed (and on a personal level I feel pity for her, she looks and sounds like she’s been runned over by a truck. I would not want to be her doctor looking after her insulin level these days....)

tobee · 20/03/2019 20:54

Plus what fucking message does that give to mp s? Surely that's going to piss most of them off massively?

reefedsail · 20/03/2019 20:55

"failing to make a decision I want "

DGRossetti · 20/03/2019 20:55

Is there any mechanism by which MPs can insist on an emergency session to actually hold indicative votes?

As long as they split along party lines ... no.

bugeyedbarber · 20/03/2019 20:55

@AsMuchUseAsAMarzipanDildo

Grin

She is starting to resemble Nicola Murray on her 4th Sector Pathfinders Launch

MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2019 20:55

Grieve seems ok

Holidayshopping · 20/03/2019 20:55

At what point is it that someone can be classed as a despot?

tobee · 20/03/2019 20:55

I do think maybe they'd have to punch her and kidnap to get her out of the way

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2019 20:56

Loletta Ireland may be able to get an emergency temporary WTO waiver for a few months,

because of the special circumstances of the troubles and with NI being such a tiny, tiny economy comared to the EU,
I don't know.

Otherwise, they'll probably just apply checks as sensitively a possible:

on the main roads that large goods vehicles would use
Regular traders will have documentation and probably pre-clearance

and simply accept there will be increased smuggling with smaller vehicles at minor crossings.

NoMoreMonkeysJumpingOnTheBed · 20/03/2019 20:56

Watching that speech is maddening, why does she not understand the hypocrisy and irony of forcing a vote on her deal time and time again but will of the people means the one and only referendum stands?!

If anything, that infuriatingly patronising and goady speech will have prompted people who were wavering to maybe consider attending the people's vote march just to demonstrate that she does not actually speak for everyone.

What was the definition of insanity? I think we're witnessing it in realtime

Littlespaces · 20/03/2019 20:56

I admire Dominic Grieve for standing up to the Tory Party and TM.

He is being threatened with de-selection by his constituency.

Lisette1940 · 20/03/2019 20:56

My mother is very like Teresa May in personality. I recognise the intrangisance. We do not have a good relationship.

The80sweregreat · 20/03/2019 20:56

In a nutshell
' it's someone else's fault '

67chevvyimpala · 20/03/2019 20:56

How dare she???

How fucking DARE she???

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 20/03/2019 20:56

The bit about the public being bored and fed up with 'arcane procedural rows'.

Or, as it's also known, a sovereign parliament doing their job.

That is the vilest, most disingenuous, most patronising, gaslighting load of shite I've ever heard from a politician.

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tobee · 20/03/2019 20:57

Thatcher was super patronising too of course.

Easilyflattered · 20/03/2019 20:57

For a moment I thought she was going to suggest revoke.

I think I held my breath for most of that speech.

Ah shit, I'm starting to feel quite nervous now. It all seems so unstable and like the normal democratic process is being rode roughshod over quite openly and publicly. This isn't what UK politics should feel like

CordeliaEarhart · 20/03/2019 20:57

DRG, is there any hope that the moderate Tories would be pissed off enough to no longer vote with the party on this issue?

GCAcademic · 20/03/2019 20:57

I found that chilling. I can't remember a Prime Minister attacking Parliament and trying to turn the public against their elected representatives before. The woman is dangerous.