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bringee · 19/03/2019 07:00

What do you think will happen after Brexit?

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tomhazard · 19/03/2019 07:02

Depends whether we crash out without a deal or not! If there's no deal then I suspect there will be a great deal of chaos in many areas as well as a crash of the economy.

If we can leave with some kind of deal at some point then there will be bumps in the road and certainly economic change but not so severely.

Whatever happens the nation will remain as divided as they've ever been on this issue and there will be decades of mess to sort out; to what degree who knows.

HerLadySheep · 19/03/2019 07:06

And when will that be? Unless it is stopped I don't think it will be finished for about 10 years.
I think the country will remain fractured for an entire generation

Theworldisfullofgs · 19/03/2019 07:11

Noone knows. That's the point. Leavers even ran a competition over the years to come up with one but couldn't agree anything that wouldn't cause massive economic damage or that they could even agree on. Thats why they went into the referendum with sound bites and no plan.

bringee · 19/03/2019 07:47

In simple terms I think people in the UK are angry. Some people lost to the recession and some people didn't. We have to pull together for all. I lost my job just coming out of university - I'd been working for 5 years when budget cuts meant I just had to go, kicked onto the streets. I understand how those left behind feel. I didn't vote to leave because I was able to rationalise my feeings. I think the vote was an emotional one. One to wreck the establishment.

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NopeNi · 19/03/2019 07:49

It's our version of a civil war. It's never, ever going to be really "over", and the divisions will last a long time.

Theworldisfullofgs · 19/03/2019 08:03

Two of my sisters voted leave. They both live in the south. They have benefitted massively from being baby boomers (much older). One of them is just angry of the professionally angry mob. She shares edl shit on Facebook. Blames everyone else for anything that goes wrong in her life. She isn't the disenfranchised. Her life will probably get worse after Brexit and who will she blame then?

Helmetbymidnight · 19/03/2019 10:43

I didn't vote to leave because I was able to rationalise my feeings. I think the vote was an emotional one. One to wreck the establishment.

How's that working out for you?

Presumably you came to realise that Boris, JRM, Farage, Gove, have never ever had any interest in the well-being of the working people, and that they ARE the establishment?

Caucasianchalkcircles · 19/03/2019 11:18

I think there will be many people expecting better public services, less regional disparities in prosperity, more genuine investment in the ‘left behind’ post industrial areas, just a fairer fully functioning society. Needless to say there will be a lot of very disgruntled individuals when none of it comes to pass !

bellinisurge · 19/03/2019 11:19

Well, wrecking stuff is going brilliantly.

bringee · 19/03/2019 12:26

I did NOT vote to leave

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Theworldisfullofgs · 19/03/2019 17:08

On the radio erg mp talking about how people will blame the Tories if they dont deliver Brexit. The reality is people will blame the Tories if they do (possibly more people). They live in cloud cuckoo land.

1tisILeClerc · 19/03/2019 17:20

Brexit isn't a 'one off' thing. If the original timetable of leaving on 29 March is held it is the START of negotiations.
A 'crash out', although supposedly 'instant' will take best part of a year to happen, although 'bad things' will appear VERY quickly, within a few days and certainly weeks.
The WA was scheduled as around 2 years of negotiations where not a lot appears to happen, but that assumed the UK gov would negotiate sensibly,,, draw your own conclusion on that!
Overall, the UK won't be ranked 5th for GDP as the businesses that are leaving will take the edge off that, so it risks being a gradual slide downwards, the rate being determined by the amount of effort Westminster puts in. Given the track record of many governments NOT taking responsibility for regeneration of areas where natural industry has declined it doesn't look good. The likelihood of a global recession due soon (couple of years perhaps) will just put the boot in harder.

Littlespaces · 19/03/2019 18:15

If WA happens - bad stuff will be blamed on the fact 'No Deal' was blocked.

If 'No Deal' happens - bad stuff will be blamed on the fact that the WA was voted down.

There is no ONE version of Brexit. There are loads of versions.

Theworldisfullofgs · 19/03/2019 18:23

And the lack of a coherent agreed transparent plan is the biggest problem. There's a reason why they never came up with obe

Theworldisfullofgs · 19/03/2019 18:23

One

1tisILeClerc · 19/03/2019 18:25

{If WA happens - bad stuff will be blamed on the fact 'No Deal' was blocked.
If 'No Deal' happens - bad stuff will be blamed on the fact that the WA was voted down.}

Maybe the logical conclusion from this is just to pick a random option and go with it as a similar number will be happy with it to those unhappy.

Mistigri · 19/03/2019 19:15

There is no "after"

Withdrawal agreement passes = another 5-10 years of bickering over trade agreements

No deal = UK literally falls apart; Brexit-triggered events will dominate the news for the foreseeable

No Brexit = they will moan and moan until they and you are sick.

Only way to avoid Brexit is to leave the U.K. Our French newspapers have remarkably little to say about it.

Magicroundabout321 · 19/03/2019 19:19

Brexit Wrecksit

What an unnecessary disaster the whole thing is.

Clavinova · 19/03/2019 20:43

Just spotted this;

LONDON (Reuters)-Britain on Monday reached a deal with Iceland and Norway to allow trade to continue unchanged if it leaves the European Union without a deal, trade secretary Liam Fox said.

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-trade/uk-reaches-post-brexit-trade-agreement-with-iceland-and-norway-idUKKCN1QZ2C3

Theworldisfullofgs · 19/03/2019 20:50

mistigirl would love to but that pesky thing called Freedom of movement will be gone

1tisILeClerc · 19/03/2019 21:00

{mistigirl would love to but that pesky thing called Freedom of movement will be gone}
Don't tell everyone but of course you can move to anywhere you like, just that the paperwork and some conditions will be a more onerous.

bellinisurge · 19/03/2019 21:31

Hooray! Helly Hanson and Bjork albums. I was soo worried and Liam Fox has saved the day again.

Mistigri · 19/03/2019 21:32

of course you can move to anywhere you like,

That's rubbish ... there will be minimum income conditions + other requirements in most EU countries. Move where you like is strictly for the very rich. My DH was refused a French residence card in 1999 with £60k in the bank but no job.

Clavinova · 19/03/2019 21:40

Hooray! Helly Hanson and Bjork albums. I was soo worried and Liam Fox has saved the day again.

Norway is also the UK's main source of imported crude oil and natural gas.

1tisILeClerc · 19/03/2019 21:41

I didn't say it was easy.

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