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What do you think will happen after Brexit?

What do you think will happen after Brexit?

bellinisurge will be hiding in her nuclear shelter - surrounded by 200 cans of cold baked beans.

Clavinova
Nah, cos she'll be using a bazooka to fire them at the starving hordes beyond her veg garden.

And I'll have attached my side gate to the mains to keep them out of my garden.

after Brexit is a good ten years away no matter what happens

TalkinPaece

after Brexit is a good ten years away no matter what happens
Probably.

It will be like home alone...

DD is very good at making sticky traps on the kitchen floor with squash or apple juice and trodden in raisins. And also plenty of sharp objects to tread on in bare feet.

Hi @Clavinova , I hope to be going about my business as normal, confident that I can feed my family. And you?

I noticed Liam Fox has been trumpeting some progress with Iceland and Norway. It has been on this thread and in the press.

Yes after three years there has been some limited progress.

I think the whole country would agree it is good news but we need to keep it in context.

Take Iceland -Iceland represents 0.127% of UK exports. So we still have 99.873% to go.

I can work out Norway figures too - but the trade deals we need to replace for our current exports alone are worth $ 412.1 Billion.
The U.K. exports of $526M to Iceland and imports of $509M are a tiny proportion of our trade.

Also my understanding is that we have only agreed tariffs with Iceland and Norway. This is not an entire deal but some tariffs.

More on Iceland to put Disgraced former defence minister Liam Fox in context..

As well as being less than 0.2% of our trade Iceland is very fragile. The financial crisis caused Iceland's three main banks and banking system to completely collapse.

It was the largest banking crisis experienced by any country in economic history.

Their severe depression caused huge political unrest. The attached report says that Tourism Iceland from 2010 onwards has helped recovery but the Icelandic economy remains small and subject to high volatility. It says their population is only 340,000 compared to our 66 million.Is that right?

Anyway after a period of growth (based mostly on tourism) Iceland's economy is slowing down again according to an economic outlook for the years 2018–2020 published in April 2018.

I suspect Iceland needs us even in our vulnerable state, just as much as we really need all 340,000 of them.

Arion _research

Britain on Monday reached an a deal with Iceland and Norway to allow trade to continue unchanged if it leaves the European Union without a deal, trade secretary Liam Fox said.

Mr Fox is being economical with the details. The relationship between the UK and Norway/Iceland is not unchanged - elsewhere in the press he has said that it will be replicated as far as possible and the agreement does not include services, which account for 80% of UK exports.

Freedom of movement also ends when the UK leaves the EU, affecting British oil and gas workers in Norway and thousands of other Brits in Norway/Iceland and their citizens here in the UK. While the focus of negotiations has been on UK/EU relationships such as FoM, the impact on UK/EEA relationships has not been addressed.

Havanananana
I'm feeling very confident about Norway's commitment to the UK;

Speech by Minister of Trade and Industry Torbjørn Røe Isaksen to the Norwegian-British Chamber of Commerce in Oslo, 5 September 2018.

Business as usual:Norway and the UK

www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/business-as-usual-norway-and-the-uk/id2610407/

the agreement does not include services, which account for 80% of UK exports.

That statement is incorrect - it should be, the services sector accounts for 80% of the output of the UK economy.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45707110

bellinisurge
I hope to be going about my business as normal, confident that I can feed my family.And you?

Yes, very confident thank you - Waitrose, independent butcher, artisan baker etc. where I live. Nice selection of farm shops 20 minutes by car - thanks for the petrol (crude oil) Norway.

If you're rich enough to shop at Waitrose and artisan shops, you have fuck all to worry about anyway

Free coffee and papers at Waitrose though.

So Clavinova outs themselves as a Waitrose loving artisan baker frequenting member of the elite. Making patrician decisions about others with less money. Nice.

I've mentioned Waitrose loads of times - it's where I do the bulk of my shopping. Lots of deals in Waitrose actually - you should try it - they often have rice and beans on special offer.

Booths is better than Waitrose.
Anyway, Clavinova will be getting the wine in for her victory celebrations next weekend when she can celebrate leaving.

Booths really is better than Waitrose. In fact, makes it look like Lidl. I go to Booths at Christmas for a special treat. Their Christmas catalogue is a hard back book.
Clavinova is down with the kidz in Waitrose.

And you get coffee and a paper.

Booths really is better than Waitrose.

Ah, but the 400 mile round trip is probably not worth it for me.

So, one advantage of being a Northerner then, No Clavinova.

So, one advantage of being a Northerner then, No Clavinova.
Definitely.

Missed this one this morning;

Britain is expected to seal a trade agreement with Canada within days as officials try to minimise the economic impact of leaving the European Union without a deal.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-canada-trade-deal-close-but-just-days-left-for-dozens-more-kfq9p6682

There is confidence in Whitehall that a pact with Ottawa will be secured, effectively replicating Canada’s economic accord with the EU for British companies after Brexit.

I'm confused Clav. The exact deals we currently have with a tiny section of those countries we currently have them with? How is that an improvement? I thought Brexit was supposed to make things better. Not be a tiny proportion of the stuff we already had with nothing better.

'Not quite as shit as we thought it might be' wasn't on a bus was it? 'We might have gas and rotted shark meat' wasn't either.

Oh and maple syrup.

Yay.

I'd say it actually is worth the round trip. Loads of other wonderful things in the North and you are missing out in your bubble.

When you have the windswept beauty of the moors, why spoil it by having whining Southerners around?

I have no idea why clavinova spends so long copy and pasting stuff on here. In 9 days we'll know and if it's no deal then all the copy pasting in the world is not going to solve the border issues. The time for random propaganda is over, and at this point no one is going to be convinced until they see for themselves.

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