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Brexit

How will society respond if we crash out on the 29th March?

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SparklySneakers · 16/03/2019 12:53

The clock continues to tick its relentless way until March 29th.
If the votes next week don't secure a deal and the EU doesn't agree an extension of any length so we crash out, how will society respond? How do you see the future of the UK over the next year?

Personally I am worried but holding on to a small amount of hope.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 20/03/2019 11:33

You didn't actually answer the question.

bellinisurge · 20/03/2019 11:33

"If German companies appreciate the value of engineers more than their UK counterparts why do I care how it happens?"
Obviously the EU wasn't holding them back.
You are happy to take all the benefits of EU membership that your employer enjoys but want to piss all over the UK economy for everyone else by voting Leave.
And then some ridiculous shit about the Empire. I hope you don't apply that level of critical thinking to your work because your employer may decide you aren't really up to a challenging job.

bellinisurge · 20/03/2019 11:35

Surely @BeersTonight2000 is taking the piss. No one could be that ignorant and yet be in a position of any responsibility. .....

BeersTonight2000 · 20/03/2019 11:39

Trade deals are not the only issue

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/03/2019 11:40

OK, what law would we have made that we were prevented from making by the EU?

BeersTonight2000 · 20/03/2019 11:41

Regulations are an obstacle too.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/03/2019 11:42

Those goalposts must be really heavy. I'd stop moving them about if I were you.

BeersTonight2000 · 20/03/2019 11:47

And then some ridiculous shit about the Empire. I hope you don't apply that level of critical thinking to your work because your employer may decide you aren't really up to a challenging job

Third time I have worked for same employer in 18 years.

BorisBogtrotter · 20/03/2019 11:54

"Better off as live in a country that makes its own laws,"

No it won't. Any trade agreement will involve pooled sovereignty, even being a member of leavers beloved WTO means subjecting the UK to decisions made by super national organisations. We aren't leaving any of the other that we are a member of.

," is not denied cheaper goods and services "

But we will be still having tariffs and NTBs, otherwise we end up with mass unemployment here ( oh and under WTO rules other countries have to agree and will negotiate them so won't be setting them on our own).

BeersTonight2000 · 20/03/2019 12:11

we end up with mass unemployment here

There was mass unemployment in the depression years of the 1930s, but the world got over it. High unemployment after the Iron Lady took control, but the UK got over it and prospered.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/03/2019 12:17

I'm still waiting for any upside: legal, trade, economic, I'm not fussy. As long as it's actually tangible.

bellinisurge · 20/03/2019 12:18

In short, @BeersTonight2000 , you tho I'm alright Jack and you know very little apart from discovery channel level history.
Great.

Sakura7 · 20/03/2019 12:58

There was mass unemployment in the depression years of the 1930s, but the world got over it. High unemployment after the Iron Lady took control, but the UK got over it and prospered.

The difference is that you want to create the situation that causes high unemployment, without a care for the people who will suffer greatly. Disgusting.

havingtochangeusernameagain · 20/03/2019 13:01

the UK got over it and prospered

as a whole maybe. There are communities that were deeply damaged by Thatcher's policies and have never recovered.

1tisILeClerc · 20/03/2019 13:05

When your world consists of inaccuracies, sound bites and what is now history, you can make anything up.
BeersTonight2000 is just a wind up 'artist' contributing nothing.

BorisBogtrotter · 20/03/2019 13:17

Funny how MN seems to be full of these types recently.

The leave side are worried.

TheElementsSong · 20/03/2019 13:19

Has this one got confused about whether the Irish and English (sic) governments can make international agreements? Grin

1tisILeClerc · 20/03/2019 13:29

{The leave side are worried.}
Which is peculiar as that is probably what will happen. It's almost as if they don't want the shitstorm they have summoned.

FinallyHere · 20/03/2019 14:04

the empire spanned the globe

Does anyone who harks back to the good old days of empire actually realise what was so good about it , well from the point of view of people living on this island?

When we literally walked into countries and 'traded' with them with the terms of trade skewed vastly in our favour. Eg Indian subcontinent. East India Company. Trade & Politics

Now, we are voluntarily giving up membership of the EU to take our chances in today's very different globalised economy

Sigh

FinallyHere · 20/03/2019 14:07

There are communities that were deeply damaged by Thatcher's policies and have never recovered.

And a relatively few who have benefitted from rising house prices following the sell off of council houses, to boost the numbers of property owning Tory voting people

followed by generations of people who may be forever priced out of the housing market unless they inherit or the bank of mum and dad can provide a deposit ?

1tisILeClerc · 20/03/2019 14:07

{When we literally walked into countries and 'traded' with them with the terms of trade skewed vastly in our favour. Eg Indian subcontinent. East India Company. Trade & Politics}

You mean 'Mad Max' does Tescos?

SparklySneakers · 20/03/2019 14:14

Personally my plan for next Friday night/Saturday morning is to mainline kitkats and drink wine.

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Millyonthe · 20/03/2019 14:37

Surely BeersTonight2000 is taking the piss. No one could be that ignorant and yet be in a position of any responsibility

Funny how MN seems to be full of these types recently.

In fact, there are usually only one or two pro-Leave posters who say anything on here in any one day. However reasonable or polite their posts, they are greeted here with weird hostility and then you lot start talking among yourselves about them using very personal insults.

So we generally leave you to it.

SparklySneakers · 20/03/2019 14:41

"You lot"

Nice. Although I think Millyonthe means "those not on the left hand side of the bell curve and with the ability to critically analyse information and form their own opinions."

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TheElementsSong · 20/03/2019 14:42

weird hostility

Gee, it's just so weird that people aren't puffed up with pride that the British once colonised and exploited half the globe.

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