How will society respond if we crash out on the 29th March?

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The clock continues to tick its relentless way until March 29th.
If the votes next week don't secure a deal and the EU doesn't agree an extension of any length so we crash out, how will society respond? How do you see the future of the UK over the next year?

Personally I am worried but holding on to a small amount of hope.

Some fervent Brexiter on one of the political programmes this morning... Andrew Marr? Basically admitted that we will repeat all this uncertainty upheaval & political struggle when the transition period ends. The exact same dramatic elements, including unpleasant smelly compromises, will be present.

If MV3 passes, we can therefore schedule the next phase of brinkmanship where UK thinks it holds cards but really has none.

{If MV3 passes, we can therefore schedule the next phase of brinkmanship where UK thinks it holds cards but really has none.}

But at least the undergrowth will have been cleared. EU based companies will have left or very much on the way out and the brilliant planning by the UK government will be able to shine in all it's naked glory. The electorate should be able to see how much they have been shafted.

But the Leavers will still blame everyone else.

All the no dealers will be ecstatic that 'democracy' has been respected. When the shit hits the fan and a lot of their lives are affected they will probably blame 'remoaners', the 'bullying EU' and TM oh and 'the elite'.

And I wish the leavers would stop banging on about the 'majority wants'.. It was LESS than 50% of the population who voted for this!

Maybe when we see how Farage's march progresses we will have some idea of the Public response. Although Farage is charging them to walk, I can't see that there is anything to stop other people wishing to join for at least a leg of the journey if the march goes through their town.

Loads of fences blew down locally in last night's wind. As I was driving along I thought to myself that at least the fence repair people will be kept busy and in work for a while. So it truly is an ill wind where no one benefits.

150 ppl on 'Leave means Leave' march today.
Or maybe 200 ppl, even, if you believe The Express.
Hearty 12 mile walk in sunshine today.
How many were journalists

That's made me chuckle all day. Even my mum was
Maybe there's have been more if the Nissan workers hadn't realised how voting leave had risked their jobs!

Led by Donkeys put today's marcher count at 77 (including photographers). Some of the Twitter comments are très droll, too. :)

Something about a footbridge en route that is closed on Sundays.

And I wish the leavers would stop banging on about the 'majority wants'.. It was LESS than 50% of the population who voted for this!

Even less voted remain. Twist the numbers any which way you like the majority who voted chose leave all be it by a small margin.

I hope the WA gets through. May not be what the leave voters want, but it is unrealistic to leave a negotiation with everything that one side wanted.

At least it would end of lot of the uncertainty. However, still the GFA and the backstop issue to resolve.

{Even less voted remain.}
The sentence should say 'Even fewer voted remain'.
Just because gutter press journalists are thick doesn't mean that others can't speak properly.

@1tisILeClerc not to quibble but you can't have even fewer either, it's either fewer or it's not

Quibbles either way don't change that of those that voted there was a greater number for leave than there was remain. In a two horse race that is all that is needed. Had there been only one vote difference between leave and remain in either direction the winner was the one who received the most votes.

Including those that chose not to vote and assuming they would have all voted in the same way is nonsense. If they don't vote at all then either they don't care or they (like me) don't trust UK Government to deliver.

ladyme
Yes, thank you.
If you can count discrete items it's fewer, and if it is a quantity like water it is more or less.
The fact a greater number voted to leave based on corrupt practices is obviously not a problem.

The fact a greater number voted to leave based on corrupt practices

Such as? Was spending 9 million of taxpayers' money by remain campaign not corrupt? I don't remember the leave campaign being allowed to spend the taxpayers money to advance their views.

Apart from the implied timing of the Chancellors comment on the leaflet, which is late but still essentially right, it is basically correct and not a string of lies.
The illegality was campaigning using 'foreign' money, being American and Russian principally.

The illegality was campaigning using 'foreign' money, being American and Russian principally

Did the alleged amount received from USA and Russia exceed 9 million?

If the leave campaign was illegal how has the result of the 2016 referendum not been overturned and the result deemed to have been that UK remains in the EU?

Seems a bit academic now as the Bercow ruling seems to have cancelled any further discussion on WA? Wonder how long he had been keeping that up his sleeve?

BeersTonight2000
Aaron Banks put in £13 Million, he is struggling to explain where it all came from.
The illegal campaigns have not been investigated because a certain T May blocked them.
Bercow has not necessarily blocked a futher vote, he explained a procedure that can allow a futher vote.

Try doing some research rather than believing the front pages of the gutter press.

If the leave campaign was illegal how has the result of the 2016 referendum not been overturned and the result deemed to have been that UK remains in the EU?

Ironically, because it was only advisory and has no legal binding.

The courts have already said that if it had been a General Election or other binding vote, the result would have been overturned due to illegal practices! People looking back in 100 years won't be able to believe this kind of crap.

"Was spending 9 million of taxpayers' money by remain campaign not corrupt? "

It wasn't the remain campaign, it was the government, and it was under electoral laws.

So no. You need to find another point.

The WA is crap. But at least, once it is voted through a whole generation of age 55+ Middle Englanders will finally realise how small we actually are.

Shame we will emerge even smaller than before, however, as the WA leaves us bound by all new Directives and Regulations enacted during the (doubtless very lengthy) transition period. (Creepily, and in a sop to Orwell, the uk gov insists on calling it the ‘implementation period’, once again treating the public as if we are all morons.)

How blackly funny it would be if the EU found it’s law-making process somewhat speedier without us in the room, bringing in the financial transactions tax and the tax transparency directive during the transition period, while our trusty brexiteers press their noses to the window of the negotiating room.

Such as? Was spending 9 million of taxpayers' money by remain campaign not corrupt?

One was legal and one wasn't, it's not difficult to understand.

The overspend (by leave) that carried on after remain ran out of money for a further 2 weeks, plus continuing to advertise after the Jo Cox murder, should have made the result null and void... it was cowardice by Cameron and May that allowed the result to stand.

But allowing irreversible constitutional change on a simple majority (even if it had been 1 vote) is something the Govt should never have allowed, it was a dereliction of duty and something future generations will become increasingly angry about.

The illegal campaigns have not been investigated because a certain T May blocked them

Why did T May block investigations is she is a remainer at heart?

Try doing some research

Maybe T May should have followed this advice as obviously not aware of what Bercow had up his sleeve.

So no. You need to find another point

Point is that there were more votes for leave than remain all be it a small margin and a surprise result.

It wasn't a surprise result, leave had been in the lead in many polls

T May did not block any investigations into remain spending, it was investigated and the claims found to be false, it was fined a small amount for some irregularities.

Facts are important.

The biggest lies and biggest frauds were by Leave. TM didn't block investigation of Remain. It's just that investigators didn't factor in the free pass that the Leave Campaign get .

{Even less voted remain.}
The sentence should say 'Even fewer voted remain'.
Just because gutter press journalists are thick doesn't mean that others can't speak properly.

Wow. The twunty SPAG correction got this thread early