Hypothetically, is there any combination of circumstance that could stop Brexit?

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Hypothetically but with some basis in reality, I mean. So not an alien invasion.

Hopefully not no. But then again I want no deal.

Bloody hell pinkgin I hope you're not serious.

Perfectly serious. That is what I voted for.also what every single person I know voted for. Personslly I think MN is one massive bubble with the.anti brexit feeling.

Basically no.

The British people voted for it in s referendum, and the two main parties are both committed to enacting it.

We’ve lost a heck of s lot of time/effort because of a pipe dream of overturning - and I wish that had been put into getting a better deal.

I now think ‘no deal’ is close to inevitable. It could have been different if the focus had been on a good deal from the start, rather than interference patterns

Oh stop it PinkGin.

It's not funny or clever.

PinkGin, do you think No Deal will mean chaos with shortages and rioting?

WA gets voted down, TM asks for extension, the 27 don't agree, TM has to take us over the cliff or ask parliament to revoke, chooses latter, telling the country it's for the best so we can start the process over again without re-invoking. Not a likely option but anything could happen.

TM needs to say, "Look, we fucked up. David Cameron was pandering to the party and didn't think things through. Nobody knew the consequences. We shouldn't have asked people to vote on something that we didn't understand and that they didn't understand. We completely fucked up and there is no solution to this except to cancel the whole thing. To anything other than this would be disastrous."

I'm thinking, get Paul McKenna into the Commons to perform some sort of mass hypnotism? Or Derren Brown could mentalise TM into revoking A50. That's about it for me .

Extremely unlikely but in non-alien-invasion scenarios, the people's vote idea gets enough traction that a second referendum is held or a snap election with an opposition party somehow winning on a second referendum platform. But TM and JC both don't seem keen for a second vote so I doubt it'll happen.

So not an alien invasion

I'm pinning my hopes on that or a zombie apocalypse.

Hollow I think the same. But that's about as likely as an alien invasion. Sometimes I wonder if A50 had just been delayed and delayed, would people have just lost interest until the whole thing could have been put on a shelf somewhere...

Or if Labour had come out against Brexit or at least for a PV on the final deal as part of their manifesto?

The problem is that what the public voted for and what our politicians really want differ.There has been very little real effort wth the parties actually getting together and manage a real deal.
There has been a lot of posturing and now panic motions to stop the whole thing.Most people outside of MN just want it sorted and are resigned to a no Brexit.
Much as I dislike the Conservatives I have to admire Mrs May,she is plodding on trying to get what we asked for with,it seems little help from even her own side.
When this is all over there will be a general election and no political party has come out of this with any credibility,please can we have a 'non if the above'box to tick.

So do some people think it won't happen at all, Hotter?

Hotter, have you heard about the glass cliff?

"The glass cliff is the phenomenon of women in leadership roles, such as executives in the corporate world and female political election candidates, being likelier than men to achieve leadership roles during periods of crisis or downturn, when the chance of failure is highest."

@iVampire do you really think everyone getting behind Brexit would have made a difference?

I can’t see how people could get behind something so stupid.

I voted out and everyone I know did too. I agree with PP, also the politicians know if there was a People’s vote the result would be the same, that’s why they are not pushing for one.

However, I don’t think we will leave.

Why do you think it won't happen, mantlepiece?

TM needs to say, "Look, we fucked up. David Cameron was pandering to the party and didn't think things through. Nobody knew the consequences. We shouldn't have asked people to vote on something that we didn't understand and that they didn't understand. We completely fucked up and there is no solution to this except to cancel the whole thing. To anything other than this would be disastrous."

This. Exactly this.

What a piss-poor parliament we have that so few of them have the balls to do what's right.

Yes, if May had the integrity to admit they fucked up, made the statement above and revoked Article 50...

I think there has been no positive push or planning for even a deal never mind a no deal. It’s only in the last couple of months that something has been cobbled together and no one likes it. I think this is deliberate.

I think we can and should leave the EU, the politicians should get on and what they are paid to do. They should implement the result of the referendum, but they don’t want to. Too many vested interests, and the EU will implode if we do leave.

They keep wheeling out Blair to test the water, he gets shot down, scuttles away for a few months, reappears to do do the same.

Even people who voted remain are now saying they want to leave because of the situation. We are a democracy, the vote should be acted upon.
Politicians actually saying leavers don’t understand what we voted for, they know better. That’s not going down well!

This is just going to drag on and on. Bet we’re still in when we have the next election in 2022.

No, none.

No deal exit is enshrined in law under the Withdrawal Act 2018. And specified for the 29th of March.

And only statute can overide statute.

A second referendum would take almost 6 months merely to legislate for and organise, hence would be on rejoining which would mean the single market ( a term few seem to understand).

Only repealing the Withdrawal Act itself, as only statute can change the law, would stop brexit, and as there are less than 30 parliamentary days remaining that isn't possible either.

Random18

Yes, I think if the amount of effort which parliamentarians are putting into handwringing has been put into finding a better deal from the outset, the chances of finding the new language (that some are intimating is possible, they have ideas for etc) could have come to pass in time

Trying to stop Brexit by parliamentary spoiler was a unicorn pipe dream, and it has done harm. When you have bad cards, it’s better to play them well, rather than just bang on about how you’d prefer a different hand

Spinflight - thanks for your useful post. I had a feeling it was also timed out already, but hadn’t seen it laid out why

@Spinflight is incorrect. It wouldn't take 30 days to repeal the WA.

We could revoke Article 50, but sadly I think it's unlikely and posters like @PinkGin24 who want to deny all the economic and sociological opportunities she enjoyed under the EU to our children will get their way.

I'm so angry right now I'm even glad that it's Leavers who will suffer most (as they live in harder hit areas). And I hate myself for thinking that. I really do. But I look at my children and think what has been done to them and I just feel indescribably angry. Writing that down makes me question my own morals.

She revokes. That's it.
She won't.
Hopefully MPs will grow up and accept WA as the least worst option.