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Westminstenders: Waiting for Sanity

980 replies

RedToothBrush · 01/02/2019 15:40

We could be waiting a long time, but that's what we have to wait for as that's what the EU is waiting for.

The EU has requested we expand on our plans for 'alternative arrangements' with regard to the backstop.

We need to do so before the next HoC vote on 14th Feb. The EU see no point in shifting their position before than. And the UK will struggle to provide the info the EU want before then. So there is now some doubt as to whether the vote will go ahead as planned.

About a third of the Cabinet now believe that Brexit will have to be delayed due to legislation not being ready for exit date. However we don't have power over this and we might still exit without it.

There is no Brexit related business next week in the HoC to prevent pesky amendments. The recess has been cancelled but MPs have been told its OK to go on their ski holidays so it's just a PR stunt.

Meanwhile No Deal is in full effect as businesses trigger their exit strategy in the absence of certainty. No Deal is reality for many even if we do have a last minute deal...

We are all about to get poorer. As that's what we voted for.

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TatianaLarina · 02/02/2019 09:37

PMK Gin

BigChocFrenzy · 02/02/2019 09:37

As an addict of military scifi books, I know all the terms - just never expected to see them from a UK govt in peacetime trying to handle a crisis it caused 100% on its own

Buteo · 02/02/2019 09:39

Is this yet another carefully planned leak to show the potential effects of No Deal to frighten Parliament into backing May’s WA?

IrenetheQuaint · 02/02/2019 09:40

I'm not sure I have much faith in civil servants to run a military-style crisis operation in incredibly taxing circumstances. I'm sure there are some who are trained to work on emergencies already and are excellent, but this would require massive numbers to keep all the different crush centres operating.

1tisILeClerc · 02/02/2019 09:43

I think Brexit will be just like the Millennium bug,,,BUT the version where no one did anything or checked anything and all the date sensitive data reset itself to 100 years previous (early in Mogg's career).

1tisILeClerc · 02/02/2019 09:46

{Is this yet another carefully planned leak to show the potential effects of No Deal to frighten Parliament into backing May’s WA?}
The heavily shaded bits suggest redaction of some sort so it wasn't an 'accidentally captured on a phone' photo.

Buteo · 02/02/2019 09:46

Lordy, the grammar in that Operational Yellowhammer document is appalling. Did Grayling write it?

Buteo · 02/02/2019 09:49

1Tis the heavily shade bits are footers - includes the text “Officially Sensitive” and “Moving Britain Ahead”.

SixInTheBed · 02/02/2019 09:53

www.google.ie/amp/s/www.joe.ie/amp/sport/paddy-power-brexit-england-billboards-657007

Paddy Power’s advertisement campaign for today’s Ireland V England rugby match in Dublin probably encapsulates current Anglo-Irish relationship.

LonelyandTiredandLow · 02/02/2019 09:55

Buteo that's the trouble, they don't listen to "scaremongering experts" anymore. It's more likely a plan to deal with the apparent incompetence of our politicians.

umpteennamechanges · 02/02/2019 09:59

Loving the Paddy Power ads Grin

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umpteennamechanges · 02/02/2019 10:19

I would say the leaked stuff is real. It has all the right kind of information and is exactly the kind of thing consultants would put together (grammar mistakes and all).

BigChocFrenzy · 02/02/2019 10:21

mother With The Times putting their reputation on the line
I would expect they have an impeccable civil service source - more likely a few

It is almost usually stories about what a politician says or predicts that fool papers
not photos of documents
Lied, not tech fakery

BigChocFrenzy · 02/02/2019 10:23

Unfortunately official govt publications online sometimes seem to be by people who scraped through in English and failed Logic

The publications they attempted in German a year or so ago were embarassingly amateur

BigChocFrenzy · 02/02/2019 10:33

re liquid manure issue:

I read that the problem with liquid manure stores overflowing relates to cattle famers, not sheep farmers,
but at least the media got the number of legs correct

OhYouBadBadKitten · 02/02/2019 10:36

ok, after seeing those photos, I'm heading out for a walk in the snow. I think that wasn't good for my sense of well-being.

BigChocFrenzy · 02/02/2019 10:37

One of the 2018 EU Notices to Stakeholders

but it seems it took until now for the media - govt ? - to raise the issue
Certainly one of the less serious, even if stinky

I hope the EU Notices are required reading for anyone recruited for Operation Yellowhammer planning

WITHDRAWAL OF THE UNITED KINGDOM AND EU WASTE LAW

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/fileimport/wasteelawenn0.pdf

BigChocFrenzy · 02/02/2019 10:41

RNorth explains why some exports are already being hit:

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87135

"But for some, the period before Brexit is also hedged with uncertainty.

Ships bound for the Far East, for instance, take six weeks to arrive.
Prior to Brexit, goods loaded will be processed with regards to EU agreements with the destination countries

but, by the time they arrive, we might be out of the EU and the agreements may no longer apply.
Shippers might be faced with unexpected restrictions,
while importers might be confronted with demands for tariff or other tax payments.

This might be an additional reason why export orders are stagnant, in which case we might see the position deteriorate in the run-up to Brexit. "

catburglar · 02/02/2019 10:43

Operation Yellowhammer?
Have you seen where the call of the yellowhammer is to the rhythm of "a little bit of bread and no cheese". Biscuit Someone's having a laugh.

IrenetheQuaint · 02/02/2019 10:46

I did laugh at the photo of the fluffy, baffled-looking yellowhammer on the front. If they chose it because of its call that would be proper LOLs

BigChocFrenzy · 02/02/2019 10:48

‘Dickensian diseases’: gout, whooping cough and scarlet fever on rise

This is before Brexit
I dread to think what No Deal will bring in addition

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/02/dickensian-diseases-gout-whooping-cough-and-scarlet-fever-on-rise

UK hospital visits for illnesses common in Victorian era up by 3,000 a year since 2010

TatianaLarina · 02/02/2019 11:04

CBI impact map of No Deal Brexit

London

No deal impact: annual loss of £40bn by 2034 (nearly five times the annual public spending on London’s transport network and 13 times annual public spending on policing in the capital)

Exports to the EU (as a percentage of total exports): 38.4%

Yorkshire and the Humber

No deal impact: annual loss of £12bn by 2034 (equivalent to annual public spending on health, including all hospitals, GP surgeries and emergency health services)

Exports to the EU (as a percentage of total exports): 52.7%

North West

No deal impact: annual loss of £20bn by 2034 (more than double public spending on schools and education in the region)

Exports to the EU (as a percentage of total exports): 40.2%

Apileofballyhoo · 02/02/2019 11:11

What the fuck is wrong with them?