Two weeks left before our holiday balance is due...

[Cheekysquirrel]

And I still don’t know what to do.
I’m really torn because I really really really want to go and have been looking forward to it for a year.

OTOH we’d lose £3,000. At least right now we will only lose the deposit and can move the flights - although heaven knows until when.

Flying with Air France, four night break two weeks post brexit.

I just don’t know. Sensibly I should cancel and then if / when brexit is delayed I will feel really cheated. But if we don’t cancel and if / when no deal happens we could end up with no holiday and £3k down.

I am immensely fucked off.

Boys

I totally remember the millennium panic - those in the know may have been wiser but for the general public - it was major news! I remember everyone waiting up til midnight just to see what would happen etc. What short memories people have!

Butter I cannot thank you enough for posting. This is not the first thread on which I have been accused of mis-remembering the hysteria surrounding the MB. Thank you again for confirming that Project Fear was also alive and well in 1999.

I think panic about the millenium bug is overstating it, I remember very well that there were newspaper articles about what MIGHT happen but as quite a few posters above have said all IT departments worked to make sure that the systems that weren't compliant were fixed.

I worked for two different large businesses which it was an issue and literally no one panic-ed and it was barely a topic of conversation outside of work.

IMO the consequences of Brexit have the potential to be much worse

Bet it was the tabloids going on about the MB. I remember it well, DH in IT, so much money, time and expertise centered on making sure it didn't happen - to compare it to Brexit is unbelievably stupid. We have a handful of days to go and no-one has a feckin clue what's going on which is absolutely not what happened back then

I totally remember the millennium panic - those in the know may have been wiser but for the general public - it was major news! I remember everyone waiting up til midnight just to see what would happen etc. What short memories people have!

Brexit Bingo again. I was one who worked on preparation for the Millenium bug. It took us about 5 years of solid effort for my team just installing a compliant finance system. At the height of the work in 1999 about 12 people worked on it full time, by 2003, it was down to two people doing a few tweaks. Magnify that throughout the other systems in the organisation and other organisations. If one fiftieth of the effort we put into the Y2K work had been put into Brexit, we would have allowed much more time and would have begun to make much better progress towards a solution.

None of this helps with holidays - I will only be booking those flights and holidays where I could afford to lose the money - which I would put at about £200 for us personally.

Peregrina we can explain to boys until we are blue in the face the huge difference in the MB and Brexit but she/he ain't having it

An army of civil servants has been working on the problem since the EU referendum
BBC website this morning.

boys we don't even know what the deal is yet? Jeremy Hunt saying it's probably not possible without extension, Norman Smith right now saying vast amounts of work still to be done.

IFG director saying it's a humungous task ahead, new laws not passed in time etc. They say Govt is woefully under prepared.

No but they have been preparing for worst case scenarios since the referendum involving thousands of civil servants, army logistics dudes etc. It's not fair to say that nothing has been done.

I'm not saying nothing has been done but that nothing like enough has been done and really how could it have been given the short timescale (bearing in mind we obviously knew Y2K was coming for a very long time beforehand and that is was an indisputable and immovable date). We have less than 58 days to go, far fewer if you look at actual business days, it's impossible - most businesses (esp smaller ones) do not have the resources or expertise to plan for different, as yet unknown scenarios.