What do you actually WANT to happen next? PV, WA, ND, Revoke?

[Greensleeves]

Just a straw poll, I'm really not after a bunfight (although I appreciate I may get one anyway).

How did you vote in the 2016 Referendum, and what is currently your favoured option of the ones available?

Also agree we are fucked anyway, there will be civil unrest regardles. Might as well choose the least damage to the economy, and ride it out

As much as it discomforts me, I think that's where I am. We may as well do what's right for the country long term, and ride out the unrest, it will be short lived anyway as people get bored of it. I think most are already and just want it done one way or another.

I don’t understand why several people on here who voted remain are now saying they’d rather have WA than revoke. Why?!

I didn’t vote as I objected to the idea that I should male a decision I plainly wasn’t qualified to take. I am not a supporter of referendums.

Surely it therefore would have been better to vote for the status quo (i.e. remain) rather than not vote at all?

Remain
Revoke

Voted Remain

Want Revoke
Would be ok with PV
WA is still better than No Deal

Agreed, the civil unrest when the economy sinks into a great British depression, many people can't afford to eat, the foodbanks run dry, businesses have left or gone bankrupt, the NHS is totally gutted, we can't get or afford medicines, only the rich can buy goods on the black market...the civil unrest then would be worse than anything we'd get just by offering the people a vote on the final deal.

Voted Remain, want to revoke. Nobody ever prevented civil unrest and the rise of the far Right by crashing the economy. Fascism bloody thrives in a depression.

Whatever happens next one group or other will object so for the good of the country the people and the economy we should just revoke

Remain and I would like for it to be revoked.

Because my remain vote was qualified by not thinking the EU is perfect.

I think we had the referendum and should respect it (but think we shouldn't have had it).

And I actually think the WA is OK.

I want to ask those who want a PV if they think there'll be a different result? I genuinely don't.

@Darling I don’t think anyone would argue the E.U. is perfect.

I think most of us can sympathise with the concerns of many Leave voters.

For me, I chose the option I thought would be best for me and my children.

Remain
Revoke

Remain and revoke. It's a nonsense!

The problem is the WA isn't a deal, goodness only knows what the actual final outcome will be Dangling but I can understand those seeing the WA as the best way forward.

Remain and revoke. We are undoubtedly better off as we are than we would be under either May's deal or no deal. It's pointless clinging to the last referendum result on the basis that democracy must triumph over all, because that result is so tainted by all the criminality on the Leave side.

Also the outcome of another referendum would depend on the question on the ballot paper ?

Remain

Despite voting remain I am reluctant to now choose revoke as I don't like the precedent it would set, to ignore a majority vote. People should never have been asked to vote on something that was not clearly defined, there were no details and there was actually outright lies told. I actually think there should be criminal charges against some of the people that ran the leave campaign, parts of it were downright fraud.

But the decision was made and I want to continue to live in a democracy. The trouble is we have very little bargaining power and cannot force the EU to agree to more favourable terms, it's not in their interest. I don't believe any other politician would get any better terms either.

So I think I am left with the Norway option as my preferred choice, then WA with the best tweaks achievable. I really don't want no deal.

And I believe it is the fault of all the self-serving politicians, back stabbing and publicly undermining the government that has weakened our bargaining power and put May in an impossible situation. They should have argued behind closed doors, come to an agreed plan then presented a united front with that plan to show confidence and strength

Voted Remain
Want a revoke second referendum whatever...just so hacked off with it all. It’s like the bloody apocalypse and the country is paralysed by a pathetic ineffectual government and opposition.
Sorry I’m ranting

None of those.

Maybe the WA is the best as it gives time to the UK to get it’s act together and actually decides what I wants to do.

I don’t want Revoke because the U.K. would be a very bad oartner in the EU and it wouod aliniate half the population.

I dint want No Deal because it wouod also aleniate half of the population AND be disastrous for the country.

I don’t want a PV because it’s a copt out. It’s basically trying to avoid responsibility on the politicians part and try to cover the fact they haven’t been able to do their job well, aka 1- decide what Leave means 2- build a project for the future of the country 3- THEN négociating with the EU whilst respecting their red lines. It’s asking again the population to take a decision it willeverr be in a god toon tomtake because of the HUGE complexity of what leaving the EU means. I’m really too worried that we will end up with a 50/50 split again which will aleniate people further regardless of the result (and the result might well be Leave btw)

So it leaves a WA that is nowhere near perfect (actually I agree it’s nit good or even good enough) but only a blue print of red lines that have to be met. I’d rather have that than the rest as I’m sure any other option will open the door even wider to social collapse on the top of political collapse. And THAT is dangerous for democracy (look at the calls already to suspend parliament. No one seems to be shocked by those...)

Sorry for the numerous typos. iPad playing up again on MN.

Remain
Preference:

1. Revoke
2. Second referendum with Remain as an option (but that has its own dangers as Remain might lose again)
3. Norway+(+++++) i.e. with as many concessions as possible so we're BRINO.
4. TM's deal
5. Just shoot me, ok.

I should add: much of the problem we face is because people mistake the outcome of the referendum and the outcome of Brexit itself.

You can't vote to win the lottery. You can't vote for your favourite team to win a football match. You can't vote for Brexit to be a success. Cause and effect don't work like that.

So the outcome of the referendum means we have to try to accomplish Brexit (well, we don't even have to do that since it was advisory, but both main parties have interpreted it as a firm instruction). However, it cannot influence how Brexit itself will work, or not work.

And the facts, when you really dig into them, mean that Brexit is guaranteed to be detrimental to the UK. Even if we'd voted 99.999% Leave, it wouldn't have magically turned Brexit itself from a bad idea to a good one.

You are all deluded if you think it's going to be revoked. That's not an option.

You are all deluded if you think it's going to be revoked. That's not an option.

People were asked which they personally preferred of the options not what they think is likely to happen.